Paul, I'll agree that IBM should provide HTTP access to the mainframe. But to require that it be one or the other is ridiculous. Why should people that are comfortable with TSO/ISPF be forced to learn a new way to do their job? If LINUX/UNIX can support multiple shells, why must IBM stabilize TSO/ISPF?
Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:27:49 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: >On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:47:44 -0600, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>It's about pretty colors, fancy fonts, drop down boxes, scroll bars, >>drag and drop, point and click and you can't do that on the mainframe. >>If IBM had embraced graphic screen application development 15 years ago >>mainframes would still be the top business technology today. >>People simply do not want ugly 3270 screens. They want pretty graphics >>in their applications and are willing to sacrifice everything else for it. >>It's clear that IBM still doesn't "get it". > >Why do graphics belong on the server anyway? I don't want a Windows >server to do the pretty graphics either. Put the pretty stuff on the >client side, and put the data on the server side. > Fine. Pehaps it's time for IBM to functionally stabilize ISPF and TSO (if not done already) and provide HTTP alternatives to the essential services: SDSF, DSLIST, editors, RACF, etc. Or is this already available through WSA? But many customers might prefer to use Firefox, Opera, OmniWeb, Safari, etc. rather than being required to install YA idiosyncratic product on their workstations. Is WSA accessible from Linux (Linux for z/Series?)? Solaris (Sparc and i86)? OS X? Other (specify)? -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html