In the shop that I implemented the DFP segment, I was responsible for (1) defining the DFP segment in Racf and (2) managing space. You're right in that the Racf needs to cooperate, but in my former job and my present job that's not a problem...
My 2 cents back at you :) Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated "A" by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 & 2007 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darth Keller Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE In the case of a smaller shop with simple needs, DFP segments might be the way to go. One of the companies we brought in & merged into our environment used them. But I've just finished ripping all that code out as for our needs, it proved to be too simple and didn't provide us with the granularity we needed. We use DFP segments to provide TSO user defaults, but everything else gets decided in the SMS code where I have the control. One thing to keep in mind is that by giving control over to the DFP segment, you're generally depending on a RACF adminstrator to provide your values. While they're great at understanding RACF, I think it's a bit unfair to expect them to understand your storage environment and applications' needs. Also getting changes made when needed can prove to be a challenge too as their priorities don't necessarily match yours. my 2 cents - ddk ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////// A while back I was introduced to a new way of controlling SMS datasets. The object is called DFP segments. What you do is define a DFP segment in Racf DSN definition. You can specify a data class, management class and/or storage class. In my case I just use the storage class and the way I've got things set up here, the storage class determines what storage group I'm going to use. There are 2 lines of code I needed to insert to my ACS routine. It would ask the question "is there a value defined for the DFP segment?" If the answer was yes, I would exit the ACS routine. This was code I used at my previous job, but it's something that I want to do here at the District. Here's a quick definition: DFP segment. The portion of a RACF profile containing information relating to the users and resources that are managed by the data facility product (DFP). I'll look though my list of manuals to get you some information on it. Hope this helps... Thanks, George Rodriguez ************************************************************************ ************** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ************************************************************************ ************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ----------------------------------------- Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html