In our case, of course the CF phisically does NOT exist because the Machine 
Type has changed.

On the other hand I don't want to SETXCF FORCE,STR,STRNAME=xxx
because the Structures are active in production and are located on the
alternative CF's ...

Cwi Jeret .

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On Sun, 11 May 2008 08:26:51 -0400, Knutson, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>Contact IBM support.
>
>OK if you have to proceed without direct advice from IBM an excellent
>session given at SHARE in Orlando might help
>
>2876 - Successful Installation or Upgrade of a Coupling Facility (CF)
>Speakers: Mark Brooks (IBM Corporation)
>
>In this session, the speaker will describe the proper sequence of events
>when installing, removing, or replacing a Coupling Facility (CF) in your
>Sysplex. He will explain how z/OS uses the Coupling Facility Resource
>Manager (CFRM) policy to manage the coupling facilities, structures, and
>structure connectors in a Sysplex. When you perform the necessary
>fundamental operational procedures and configuration changes in the
>proper sequence, you will have success. Failure to perform this work in
>the correct order, at the right time can cause confusion, and in the
>worst case, outages for one, some, or all systems in a Sysplex. The
>speaker will describe the behavior of z/OS when a CF is not installed
>properly, and provide some techniques for resolving the various problems
>that then arise. This is a new session for Orlando.
>
>
>http://shareew.prod.web.sba.com/proceedingmod/abstract.cfm?abstract_id=1
>7311&conference_id=17
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/5yzh5q
>
>
>His summary advice on this was
>
>Fix: Structures Not Removed.
>
>If CF still exists:
>- Reconnect it
>- Initiate application processes as needed to perform
>recovery for failed-persistent connectors
>- As needed, finish removing structures from CF
>* Preferred solution because:
>- Avoids/recognizes loss of data
>- Allows applications to complete their recovery
>- Allows CFRM to resolve pending deletes cleanly
>
>* If CF no longer physically exists:
>- SETXCF FORCE,STR,STRNAME=xxx
>* To be avoided because:
>- Potential loss of data
>- Applications may require more elaborate recovery
>- Space in policy consumed with pending deletes that
>cannot be resolved
>These pending deletes do not impact applications
>You do not need to make them "go away"
>
>
>z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Setting Up A Sysplex, SA22-7625 may have some more
>advice.
>
>
>        Best Regards,
>
>                Sam Knutson, GEICO
>                System z Performance and Availability Management
>                mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                (office)  301.986.3574
>
>"Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..."
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Cwi Jeret
>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:48 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility
>
>We migrated our 2094 to 2097 .
>We prepared A new CFRM policy containing the new 2097 definition on the
>two
>CF lpars, CF2 and CF3.
>Now, after the migration we have CF3 defined on 2097 with active
>structures,
>but CF2 has still definitions of the old structures and remained pending
>with its
>2094 definition and with "NO SYSTEMS CONNECTED to this CF"
>
>How can we CLEANUP the remaining Structures in CF2 so that the new 2097
>difinition will take place so that we will be able to use the CF ??
>
>C. Jeret  Bank- Hapoalim T.A.
>
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