On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:57:32 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>John McKown wrote:
>[...]
>> Of course, this still does not address the horrendous cost of software for
>> the z, especially z/OS.
>Yes :-(
>
>> Comparing a z penguin farm (Linux) to an Intel penguin farm, the z would
>> almost always win.  [...]
>No. BTDT. It depends on requirements for HW quality. Intel penguin farm
>could mean high-end xSeries or blades, or simply bunch of regular PCs
>(see Google). I really don't care about memory overallocation in PC,
>because 1GB costs less than $100 (compared to $8k in z), I don't care
>about CP overallocation, because Intel/AMD CP is $300 (compared to $125k
>for IFL in z). Disks could be the same or I can choose much cheaper
>disks for PC.
>Floor space, HVAC, energy bills - still no significant savings here.
>Ecology - well I like green, but I won't plug out my fridge, my boss
>won't pay many thousands $$$ for being greener a little bit.
>...and VM is not free.
>Last but not least: each of PCs in a flock can run Linux or Microsoft
>Windows as well.
>
>--
>Radoslaw Skorupka
>Lodz, Poland

Thanks for the correction. But, from your comments, I would take it that the
System z is simply not worth using, except for z/OS (maybe z/VSE) legacy
work. If this is true, then I see no reason why any company would get a z
for new work. And, if a company could move its workload from, say, CICS to
WAS, it would be less expensive to run that work on Intel.

Not a nice picture. But, with any luck, I'll die of a massive coronary
before I lose my current job (and the economy is getting bad enough that
that is becoming more of a probability).

--
John

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