On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:00:29 +0100, Tidy, David (D) <dt...@dow.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Amongst the current discussion of PDSE, I have a curious problem that I
>wondered if anyone could explain. I do a logical copy of our SYSRES
>volume to a new volume, but get the following messages for SYS1.SCUNTBL
>- a large PDSE:
>ADR717E (003)-FMSG (02), SYSTEM SERVICES ERROR OCCURRED WHILE COPYING
>DATA SET SYS1.SCUNTBL IN CATALOG CATALOG.MASTER.S1. RETURN INFORMATION
>IS 001-00-000012-00173 AND MESSAGES FOLLOW:
>IGW01172T OUT OF SPACE CONDITION ENCOUNTERED DURING MEMBER CREATE
>
> PROCESSING FOR MEMBER CUNRMHB8, WITH REASON CODE = X'00000E37'
>
>IGW01173S UNEXPECTED RESULTS FROM AN SMSX SERVICE.  RETURN CODE WAS 20
>
> AND REASON CODE WAS X'050BC005'
>
>IGW01550I 8537 OF 10525  MEMBERS WERE COPIED
>
>The dataset itself is PDSE, and shows as 9977 members (the rest of the
>10525 are aliases), 98% full, one extent (even though secondary is
>defined). The volume may not have had enough space to extend that
>particular dataset. I freed up space (from other datasets) and reran the
>job, and all was fine. After the activity the 'new' dataset was exactly
>the same size / %full - no secondary extent was taken.
>
>Can anyone explain why the 'spare' disk space might be needed for a
>volume to volume copy if it is not going to be allocated by the end of
>the event? Given we do this cloning every month, and the volume is
>always near-full, it is a bit inconvenient.
>
>Best regards,
>David Tidy                                     Tel:(31)115-67-1745
>IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf         Fax:(31)115-67-1762
>Dow Benelux B.V.                               Mailto:dt...@dow.com
>

Is the new / target sysres volume empty when you start, or is there an
existing SYS1.SCUNTBL data set?   Check out doc apar OW42335.

Perhaps init the tgt volume first, copy the PDSE data set(s) first,
then the rest in a second step excluding the PDSEs.

I do a physical copy for a clone, not logical... so I would never have
that problem. 

Mark
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