MXI can produce CPU stats for address spaces without RMF/CMF - however in NO WAY does MXI even attempt to produce SMF records 70-79 or emulate the ERBSMFI interface.
MXI does use RMF/CMF for the following : (1) LPAR and LCPU statistics (RMF record intercept) (2) Processor-wide CPU statistics (RMF record intercept) (3) Device activity (SSCHs, Connect time etc etc) by calling ERBSMFI to collect type 79s. There is only a two-horse race for the functionality provided by RMF - and I think that running without either RMF or CMF is not to be advised. Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: 01 May 2009 08:45 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Implications of not having CMF or RMF - Urgent Correct, it's crazy. The only thing you have is the CPU (and channel I believe) busy monitor of the HMC. It's for free which immediatley indicates its value. It is like driving a car with the windows painted black, but with a working speedometer. You won't see where and when you will crash, but you have an indication of how tough the crash will be. As for the MXI hint, I want to bet that it relies at least partly on RMF measurements. Like it is mentioned that SDSF might not work, there could be others relying on RMF. I know DB2 and DFSORT interact with RSM to determine how much storage the can use safely and this will probably not depend on RMF, but similar functions might. Kees. "Shane" <ibm-m...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:<1241094822.7019.8.ca...@ubuntu>... > Erk - that is just crazy talk. > I can't imagine doing performance tuning and monitoring without the type > 70's. Especially after having had a paddle around the Linux world - you > feel like one arm has been cut off. > > On various occasions I have thought about using the RMF CIM data via > some (say) python code on a (Linux) client to produce some nice (z/OS) > graphs - but I'm sure that would still require a RMF license. > > Crazy, crazy talk ... > > Shane ... > > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:23 +0530, Jacky Bright wrote: > > > Due to licensing cost cutting my client is considering removing CMF. Also he > > is not ready to go for RMF software. > > > > Would like to know is there any third party tool which generates Type 70-79 > > records as being generated by these tools. > > > > We are running SYSPLEX. Without these tools is there any other way by which > > we can get LPAR / Partition / Coupling Facility LPAR wise CPU MSU / MIPS > > report for every 15 min. interval ? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ********************************************************************** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
