Yes, well, I'm sure Wrong! and Lol! and "are you a troll" (not to mention "look farther" and "are you (a) bankrobber") are valid forms of argument in some forums such as YouTube comments and Facebook pages but there is no reasonable response to such things. I would have hoped for better here, but there you are.
As far as iPhone "monopoly" is concerned, I am unaware of any capability for normal users to install alternatives to the Apple software. That was what was being discussed here, after all. And for a (short) while the iPhone was almost as much a smartphone "monopoly" as Windows still "is" (see below) as desktop software for PCs. The real point is what "would have happened" if Apple had been the Number 1 all these years. Quite strange though you would with remarkable inconsistency claim that >They (iPhones) may be the most popular. That doesn't make them a monopoly. >>Microsoft has a monopoly on desktop operating systems. Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly on desktop software. Let's see: "A monopoly (from Greek monos (alone or single) + polein (to sell)) exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity" (i.e. in this case PC operating systems). Windows is just the most popular as well. And as to >That's what M$ wants you to believe (people who use "M$" always appear to be displaying obvious prejudices which rarely makes for cogent argument). According to Wikipedia: "As a result of the five-year agreement between Apple and Microsoft in 1997, it (IE) was the default browser on Mac OS and Mac OS X from 1998 until it was replaced by Apple's own Safari web browser in 2003." -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im Auftrag von Tom Marchant Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012 01:08 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet? On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:12:14 +0000, David Stokes wrote: >>>Otoh, without Windows, who really would have been using the Internet > >>Pretty much everybody who is now. Without windows they'd be running, >>e.g., OS/2, MacOS, Linux. > >I remember struggling to get TCP/IP to work on OS/2 for our >P/390. So much for OS/2. I bought my first IBM-comapatible computer early in 1995. It came with Windows 3.1 installed and I bought OS/2 Warp 3 with it. Installed OS/2 and quickly connected via dial-up. At about the same time, I got my first computer at work, also with OS/2 Warp 3, which I installed and connected via ethernet with no problem. >I was connecting with bulletin boards and using the >Compuserve network back then (remember me?) I was doing the same in the early 1980's, with my second computer. And in 1973 I was occasionally using the Merit network to connect to work, so that I could work from home. >W95 was the first OS that made using the Internet more >or less practical (well, for normal people). Wrong. >Linux was almost uninstallable for non-specialists until >sometime in the 2000s (and maybe still is) LOL! >And re IE and Mac, well IE was the standard browser >for many years, I seem to recall. That's what M$ wants you to believe. And what M$ tried to force upon you. >Also we know what a lover Apple is of open systems. What does that have to do with this discussion? Are you a troll? >Of course back then they were competing with MS. Back when? 1977? 1980? Nope. >After getting their successful iPhone monopoly the gloves came off. iPhone monopoly? If you mean that you can only get an iPhone from Apple, that's about as useful as saying that Ford has an F-150 monopoly. If you mean that Apple has monopolized the smart phone market, you have it wrong. They may be the most popular. That doesn't make them a monopoly. Microsoft has a monopoly on desktop operating systems. Apple does not have a monopoly on smart phones. To the extent that they might have for a while, it was because they designed and marketed an innovative product. One that many people want. -- Tom Marchant ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
