I don't dispute fact that replacement for an IDCAMS LISTCAT for determining 
statuses of cataloged VSAM datasets , etc could be in the future. The csi 
interface I use.

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Sep 9, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Ed Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Scott:
> I would suggest rather than to suggest a "bad" approach is to keep looking.
> You never know in 2 years someone might be researching for a similar problem 
> and the issue becomes a problem yet again.
> Ed
> On Sep 8, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Ed,
>> 
>> IBM says these things and I understand, but what alternative has been 
>> provided and samples with the alternative.
>> 
>> Scott ford
>> www.identityforge.com
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Ed Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott:
>>> 
>>> I think IBM seriously suggested that this was not to be used as it is not a 
>>> programming interface.
>>> One off the wall vendor does/did that and every few years it breaks as 
>>> IDCAMS output changes.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jurgen,
>>>> 
>>>> You could also call idcams, output sysprint to a Qsam file, read with rexx 
>>>> and parse
>>>> 
>>>> Scott ford
>>>> www.identityforge.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> For NONVSAM LISTDSI may work, for VSAM CSI will work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And CSI returns the VOLUMES, RBA, and any other catalog information for 
>>>>> both VSAM and NONVSAM.  Including if it spans multi volumes.  If you look 
>>>>> at my other postings on CSI you will see that IBM has provided other 
>>>>> samples to show how to extract those fields.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For NON Vsam datasets LISTDSI may only show first volumes, not if it 
>>>>> spans multi volumes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you do a LISTC against a dataset and it shows all the volumes, then 
>>>>> the CSI will be able to retrieve those for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The following version of CSI Rexx I came across is much better than the 
>>>>> SYS1.SAMPLIB version.  However, the enhancement you need is to loop 
>>>>> through all the volumes for the dataset.  In the SYS1.SAMPLIB Version it 
>>>>> only does one even if there are more.  It would be a simple matter to 
>>>>> continue until the end of the volumes was found.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> And for those that want a better interface to CSI, I came across this gem 
>>>>> on the IBM Website
>>>>> 
>>>>> ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/dfsms/II14316/II14316.clist.clist
>>>>> 
>>>>> or tinyurl
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/chqotev
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not tried it yet, but apar
>>>>> II14316: A NEW TOOL IS AVAILABLE TO INVOKE THE CSI (CATALOG SEARCH 
>>>>> INTERFACE) VIA REXX.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has some interesting context about making this easier to use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lizette
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Lizette,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks for your fast response. I was already aware of the CSI, I used it 
>>>>>> in other REXX
>>>>>> procedures to search for some datasets similar to ISPF 3.4. But AFAIK 
>>>>>> CSI only gives
>>>>>> the name of a dataset, but no other attributes (size etc.). In the case 
>>>>>> I#m talking
>>>>>> about now, I already have the name, but I'm looking for other 
>>>>>> attributes, mainly the
>>>>>> size of these non-VSAM multi-volume files. Because they are multi-volume 
>>>>>> LISTDSI
>>>>>> doesn't work, because they are non-VSAM LISTCAT doesn't help although.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 08.09.2012 00:58, schrieb Lizette Koehler:
>>>>>>> Yes, you can use the Catalog Search Interface (CSI) to do this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is documentation in z/OS V1R12.0 DFSMS Managing Catalogs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And a sample in  SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lizette
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Freundliche Gruesse / Kind regards
>>>>>> 
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