I harped for the Zseries .... but a ot to be said for the Iseries as well...In the furture I see one hardware platform .. sort of see that direction...the up to you..to pick size and OS for your needs...
From: Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 01/30/2013 03:30 PM Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Don, What's really disconcerting is that the z/OS knowledge base is disappearing. JVM isn't the end all in languages. I write a lot of an gauges, including C. Yes, I am a big Linux fan Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Don Williams <donb...@gmail.com> wrote: > For now, IBM has legacy customers over a barrel and can demand a high price > for the mainframe hardware and operating systems. But for developers of new > apps, they can choose a different platform, esp. if they believe that their > customers will purchase whatever platform it takes to run them. I think > eventually (i.e., over decades) legacy applications will be replaced with > newer slicker apps that don't require IBM's big iron. Hmm, in the decades > to come, will IBM be able to continue to command a high price for its big > iron? Will employees who work with big iron continue to be well paid? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Scott Ford >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:04 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points >> >> Tony, >> >> Whoever said IBM was price competitive, they are re only game in town , >> as far as big iron goes >> >> Scott ford >> www.identityforge.com >> >> Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and >> I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote: >> >>> On 30 January 2013 13:34, Edward Jaffe <edja...@phoenixsoftware.com> >> wrote: >>>> On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for "software >> development" >>>>> activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not >> "production >>>>> work". I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users logging >>>>> onto CICS and doing production work which "runs the business". I >> guess >>>>> they could do QA testing. >>>> >>>> >>>> zPDT is for software developers only. RD&T (based on exactly the >> same >>>> technology) is for customers. >>>> >>>> http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/products/devtest/systemz/ >>> >>> Sure, but for customers to do development and testing only. >> Absolutely >>> no production, or even production-like builds. Still no low-end zArch >>> machines for a small company to run prod on. >>> >>> Tony H. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM- >> MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
