Excuse me, but IMHO RECOVERY does "format" CIs within CA - that means proper values are written into CIDF and RDF (in any). That means VSAM knows the CI is empty, or partially filled. Unused space within CI is not cleared, there is no need for that. From the other hand physically full block is written. PB is usually equal CI (let's focus on this case), so everytime you write CIDF, you write full block. The rest of block may be zeros or just any value, but not previous content from the track. So - it seems the goal of RECOVERY is to write control fields, but the way its being done means whole CIs are rewritten.

IMHO nevermind, because both SPEED and RECOVERY do not "format" all possible CI's within disk extent. So, even with RECOVERY it is possible to have residual data within the extent. Still hard to read, but not impossible.


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W dniu 15.05.2020 o 21:17, Mike Schwab pisze:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.idai200/da6i2118.htm
Discussion on Speed / Recovery option.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:34 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
Do you have something that I can cite for that, preferably something that all 
wiki readers can look at?


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formatted?

All VSAM datasets including Linear are formatted when created.  The
disk space used is not allocated to any other datasets.  Previous data
left by deleted datasets is usually left in place (erase on delete is
an option but not used frequently) but frequently overwritten in a
short time so restoring a deleted data set is almost always
impossible.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:25 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
I want to edit the wiki article [[Disk formatting]] to clarify the statement "s a 
general rule,[nb 1] formatting a disk erases most if not all existing data on the disk 
medium". Normally I would consult the logic manuals :-(

When you allocate an HFS or linear data set, does AMS preformat all of the 
tracks? When you format a zFS, does that force formatting of all tracks? Can 
you provide references that I can cite for the answers?

Thanks.



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