Thanks, you are probably correct. In the end, I need the batch piece also. 
Otherwise, CAMSM fails. 

I now have several paths to consider 

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> I'm pretty sure that the modules in SYS1.IEALNKE are only needed for java
> batch launcher.   For what you need in SMPE, I think the filesystem is all you
> would need.  I think someone already provided, but here is the download
> link
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/
> zos/__;!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!-
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> It takes more than just the JAVA ZFS. Parts of z/OS JAVA reside in
> SYS1.SIEALNKE. I do have my z/OS 2.1 SYSRES and active systems available, so
> far only sandbox at 2.3.
> 
> I am still the Sysprog for my systems. Unfortunately, my IBM id is no longer
> licensed for z/OS. I can't order directly. No products show up. Although,
> come to think of it, maybe it's only z/OS that won't be there. I haven't 
> looked
> specifically for JAVA. Probably should
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> > Is your old SYSRES volume laying around that had java on it?  If so,
> > find the JAVA ZFS container, and mount it on your new system. Or copy
> that
> > container to a new one, and mount it.   Or is all of the this the 
> > responsibility
> > of your MFaaS provider?
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> > Semi long background. Our MFaaS provider did not migrate us to a host
> > capable of running z/OS 2.3 until after z/OS 2.3 was no longer
> > orderable. For USERKEYCSA reasons (Natural Global Buffer Pool, Natural
> > out of support)), I don't really want to go to z/OS 2.4.
> >   Our MFaaS provider was able to get an archived z/OS 2.3 Serverpac
> > from IBM. Unfortunately, it does not include Java. Also missing XML
> > parser, but that's the next issue, maybe...
> >
> >    So, I have z/OS 2.3, sans Java up and running. I want to do a
> > RECEIVE ORDER and get, probably a bunch, of maintenance. RECEVE ORDER
> needs Java !!@#.
> >    Suggestions welcome. I have asked my MFaaS provider to see if they
> > can order Java separately. I will look at BUILDMCS from my z/OS 2.1
> > zone(s) tomorrow. Open to other ideas.
> >
> >    On a side note, the symlink to liberty that zOSMF wants to use is
> > 17.0.0.3, by the level in the liberty_zos is 17.0.0.4. Also, an issue
> > pushed down the stack
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