Hi Bob, If was unfamiliar with assembler, I would not start by attempting to use RACROUTE macros, as the combination of the two is a lot to chew on IMO.
RACSEQ is a TSO command/utility for RACF written by Bruce wells of IBM some years ago. Documentation and assembler source are available here... ftp://ftp.www.ibm.com/s390/zos/racf/racseq/racseqReadMe.pdf It is certainly callable from Rexx and is something you can customize if desired. Rather than RACROUTE, the program makes use of the RACF R_admin callable service. RACF callable service functionality may map more closely to the kind of permission/resource related questions you posed. The RACF callable services are documented here... https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3sa232293/$file/ichd100_v2r3.pdf HTH, Mike -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions Caution! This message was sent from outside your organization. I've been doing mainframe security for a few decades now, but I've never learned IBM's version of assembler (I still have ambitions of doing that eventually) so I may be mistaken about how RACROUTE works. But my impression is that the question the OS asks the security system might look like this: "About resource HLQ.XYZ in class DATASET, does ABC have UPDATE access to it?" In other words, the question specifies the class, the resource name, the user's ID and the level of access (READ or whatever), and the answer is a simple Yes or No (or in rare cases "I can't tell"). Am I mistaken in that? If not, then how do you learn what access ABC has to HLQ.XYZ without asking once for READ, once for UPDATE and so on? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* People don't really want to go back to a time when the world was simpler. They want to go back to a time when they didn't understand how complicated the world has always been. */ -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 18:15 "... But if you want to know all the kinds of access you have, you'd need to ask the question three or four times, for read, update, execute and create. ..." This statement is not true. I published an Assembler program and a Rexx Exec here on June 14. My program has been placed on CBT File 836 (for now, it's in the Update section of the website). --- On 2020-07-07 17:45, Bob Bridges wrote: > Nothing useful to say about your first question, but about the second: I can > think of two ways to pull your access information for a list of datasets. > > 1) Query the system about which security app is running (RACF, ACF2 or TSS), > then issue the commands and parse the output. Display only the brief > results, eg "RW" for "read/write". I have a REXX that can tell you which > security app is running, if you're interested. > > That involves a lot of coding. It might be simpler (if you can find a way to > do it) to 2) do a RACROUTE query, since that sends the question to existing > security system and returns simply 0 (access allowed), 8 (not allowed) or > very rarely 4 (can't tell). But if you want to know all the kinds of access > you have, you'd need to ask the question three or four times, for read, > update, execute and create. > > And for both methods you'd have to do the query for every dataset in the > list. If you do long lists and/or do this often, it puts a burden on the > system that might get you talked about (and to) by the operations folks. > Probably not a good idea. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Tim Hare > Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:08 PM > > I have some questions about the ISPF 3.4 utility. > > 1. Why does 'Referred' show on the "total" display for datasets, but if you > print the dataset list, you don't get it? > > 2. Are there ways to extend what is displayed? For one example: I > would like to have column for 'Your Access' that would show me what > RACF says my access is, rather than having to do LD DA(/) ALL GEN on > a line, and "suffer" through the TSO command output (as I've rarely > worked with ACF2 and never with Top Secret I don't know if such a > request can be done for 'generic security system') ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
