Time for us to go back to school.

Lb Foot is not a measure of pressure, it needs to act on area to be a
measure of pressure. Lbs / square foot/ PSI etc. are common measurements of
pressure (tires etc.).

In the 60's we were taught poundals as a measure of force, ie the force
required to accelerate  a mass of one pound at a rate of one foot per
second per second.

Thankfully SI came to the rescue by the time I went to college.
Isaac Newton, quintessentially English gets an SI unit, as does Faraday,
Tesla, Curie. Very multicultural...


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 12:44 PM Mike Schwab <[email protected]>
wrote:

> And the metric equivalent is Newton Meters.  You can get torque
> wrenches in either measurement, I would think some have both.  Some
> bolts will fail if too loose or too tight.
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:31 PM Gibney, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Foot pounds is a measure of pressure
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:29 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These
> Years?
> > >
> > > Yes, and whyat is lbf?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!JmPEg
> > > BY0HMszNaDT!78SA9VzAdbjMTRYvnKQIT6jc0VOHrKWRan9aUIqsjvsI210oVzT
> > > j6BY-5Ot12g$
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on
> > > behalf of Gibney, Dave <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:26 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These
> Years?
> > >
> > > Actually, the pound is a unit of force in English units. I believe
> weight is
> > > measured in stones.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > > > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:23 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These
> Years?
> > > >
> > > > You have the same mass versus weight issue with pound.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > > >
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!JmPEg
> > > >
> > > BY0HMszNaDT!6qfIOAdssnfWNb9bnHdVr6MfJemAcckz1N2FLwezCZtDcak8bJ
> > > > a3JHuDBIGmlQ$
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on
> > > > behalf of Tony Thigpen [[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:05 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These
> Years?
> > > >
> > > > See! SI is a "FANTASTIC" improvement over old stuff. It's all
> > > > standardized and everyone talks in the same way. (NOT!)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you France.
> > > >
> > > > Vive la pound, and inch, and mile...
> > > >
> > > > (This post was posted with sarcastic mode set to "on".)
> > > >
> > > > Tony Thigpen
> > > >
> > > > Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22/20 5:58 PM:
> > > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:05:29 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I took me a while before I realized that, of course, kg is a unit
> of mass,
> > > not
> > > > of weight; you weigh tings in kilogram-force (kgf or kgF).
> > > > >>
> > > > > Which of the following would you envision and welcome as an
> idiomatic
> > > > > alternative?:
> > > > > o ... how many kg I mass?
> > > > > o ... how many kgF I weigh?
> > > > > o Other (specify)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Should an outfitter sell climbing ropes rated in Newtons?
> > > > >
> > > > > (BTW, what's the SI unit of Specific Impulse?  And the formula for
> ∆v?
> > > > Ugh!)
> > > > >
> > > > >> ________________________________________
> > > > >> From: Jackson, Rob
> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:21 PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Bob Bridges
> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:16 PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening
> > > > attachments.]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ... I'd have to calculate to tell you how many kg I weigh.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- gil
> > > > >
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