That explains why the term used in the 19th Century was confusing; it has no relevance to the issue of whether the term is limited to temperatures in the range 0-100.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Wayne Bickerdike [wayn...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? WTF? It's true that both used (past tense) the freezing and boiling point of "water" at STP, but since when weren't they defined outside of 0-100?" Because: The centigrade scale was confusing because "centigrade" was also the Spanish and French term for a unit of angular measurement equal to 1/100 of a right angle. When the scale was extended from 0 to 100 degrees for temperature, centigrade was more properly hectograde. The public was largely unaffected by the confusion. Even though the degree Celsius was adopted by international committees in 1948, weather forecasts issued by the BBC continued to use degrees centigrade until February 1985. On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:27 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > WTF? It's true that both used (past tense) the freezing and boiling point > of "water" at STP, but since when weren't they defined outside of 0-100? > > Scare quotes because there is no standard for the percent of Deuterium in > the water. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Wayne Bickerdike [wayn...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:58 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > Centigrade was derived from Celsius, however, both described only the > freezing point and boiling point of water at NTP. > > My physics teachers said don't say >100 centigrade. It's outside the > bounds. So physicists use Kelvin. > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:26 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > Actually, i does, but is not as precise: > > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ZfcTRtyL1fHmGItPj-arpyyhb5EkDhUxhc8INI8z9BhT28rjk7J8JV2395Uwd7sGnpC_G5-WdPEkYaPYMrlh1fItSRJOUCDucUqXK5IOPjKCoC4RfbpCc1ufuEYxlinUM0WiPti_hVwdTYo1ZDI5RpLaTn1egI8jCtSkqHfLm8llGulJJUBk1ep2_bu4jEVyJvZccjCMguX5TP6eLTE2CtooWHn9naE2zF2ERJedlrw2LP0dkgR-DFrpOz7By8t7fYf1tNYFfpdL_FWB-R7Y7xXjlhtiuV8Bg1V6FWgAIiTC_TksQft1PDlIRHGjVUBu0mhbtwK07UF_blEtDFQgdEGWmaB9pTGCU2vwq0y2i3IJqA1m35BuWPympC_mbki5G6k9m9wDvZ_KMV6wap-BOnIkG4CvMdpMRheDkVgxg1ju3hbqn_LZLkKGuLqKxj0z30xjGHfcHsEKDUm037cMww/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thoughtco.com%2Fdifference-between-celsius-and-centigrade-609226 > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > > of Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:54 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > > > Kelvin (absolute temperature) is converted from Celsius. Centigrade > doesn't > > exist. > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 13:46 Jackson, Rob <rwjack...@firsthorizon.com> > > wrote: > > > > > We have definitely devolved . . . like we always do on this forum. > It's > > > fun though, right? > > > > > > I agree on Celsius. The name disturbs me too. Centigrade is more > > > pleasant for some reason. Reminds me of tardigrade. Now that is > > something > > > we could all ponder and be better off. > > > > > > First Horizon Bank > > > Mainframe Technical Support > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf > > > Of Bob Bridges > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:29 PM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These > Years? > > > > > > [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening > > > attachments.] > > > > > > I just think the word "Celsius" is ugly; "centigrade" is comparatively > > > euphonious. A personal bias. > > > > > > --- > > > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > > > > > /* Do you know what constitutes a "hate crime"? Put your thinking caps > > > on. What tools do we need to determine whether a crime was motivated > by > > > hate or prejudice? 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