Do you mean that TCAS issued a WTOR? Because that's the only way I can imagine 
TSO having had such a problem.


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This is not a 'RACF problem'. The problem lies with product that manages logins 
using RACF. Whipper snappers believe it or not, once upon a time TSO itself had 
this problem. The task gets a wait from RACF, but that task is running in the 
mainline of the top guy. The proper way to handle this is to put logon in a 
subtask, which can wait forever allowing TSO or CICS or TPX or whatever to keep 
business running in the meantime. I'm not a CICS guy, but it shocks me that 
such a mature product would behave this way.

Short of a CICS fix, the shop needs to change its practices. The idea of 
assigning SPECIAL to a help desk jockey is pretty outré.

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On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:03, ITschak Mugzach <imugz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It happens because racf is a single task. This is why other users
> can't login until the wtor is replied.
>

I very much doubt this. It may be that this part of *CICS* is a single task for 
all its users, but RACF itself pretty much runs as a subroutine of the caller 
of RACROUTE. So it is up to CICS to not get caught up in this wait.

Tony H.

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