Indeed. Take the Transient Queue Manager - Please!
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson [jesse1.robin...@sce.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS It was a long time ago, but yes, TCAS or some inbred cousin issued the WTOR and whole thing waited. Much more recently TPX would do the same thing. Improper coding is not the purview of user software. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Do you mean that TCAS issued a WTOR? Because that's the only way I can imagine TSO having had such a problem. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson [jesse1.robin...@sce.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS This is not a 'RACF problem'. The problem lies with product that manages logins using RACF. Whipper snappers believe it or not, once upon a time TSO itself had this problem. The task gets a wait from RACF, but that task is running in the mainline of the top guy. The proper way to handle this is to put logon in a subtask, which can wait forever allowing TSO or CICS or TPX or whatever to keep business running in the meantime. I'm not a CICS guy, but it shocks me that such a mature product would behave this way. Short of a CICS fix, the shop needs to change its practices. The idea of assigning SPECIAL to a help desk jockey is pretty outré. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:03, ITschak Mugzach <imugz...@gmail.com> wrote: > It happens because racf is a single task. This is why other users > can't login until the wtor is replied. > I very much doubt this. It may be that this part of *CICS* is a single task for all its users, but RACF itself pretty much runs as a subroutine of the caller of RACROUTE. So it is up to CICS to not get caught up in this wait. Tony H. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
