Wow. I had forgotten about Paste-by-typing! IIRC Tom created that function 
years ago at my request to handle some long since abandoned IBM problem 
management app. Until now I never had a reason to revisit the function. 

In my estimation, most of Vista's special copy/paste functions cannot be found 
represented in ANY other emulator. 



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Yes, I use Paste-by-Typing on that panel and it works as desired.

Charles


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Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

I purposely don't say Vista emulates any particular real terminal, and there's 
no option to specify you want to look like a 3278 vs. a 3279 or whatever.  That 
helps keep me out of trouble when it comes to details like this :)

But in addition, I took some poetic-license with certain things that bothered 
me about a real terminal.  For example, I seem to remember some programs that 
would initially fill an input area with nulls, and if you moved the cursor out 
to the right and started typing, the host would remove the nulls abd scoot your 
typing to the left.  Not what I wanted, so there's a Vista option (on by 
default) that replaces those nulls to the left with real spaces.  I don't think 
that's involved with this problem though.

There's another option to convert nulls to blanks when sending them to the host 
(off by default), in case anybody needs that.  But that causes enough trouble 
that when you try to set that option in Vista, you get a warning window telling 
you that you probably don't want to do that.

I need to find Skip's original post and see if I can reproduce the error and 
perhaps understand it a bit better, or at least see if it could be an emulator 
issue or not.

I typically use an old PCOMM version I have to determine what a real terminal 
would do, since I'll probably never see another real one except at a museum.  
My theory was the old PCOMM was programmed using logic obtained directly from 
the ROM in a real terminal, maybe even ported.
So I would expect PCOMM to be the gold-standard when any questions come up.

If that SDSF screen is the one I'm thinking of, it's a couple of separate 
fields with a jump to the second line.  If you have a long command in your 
clipboard, you might try the PasteByTyping function which simulates typing each 
character and does the jump.  Menu:
Edit/Paste-Functions/Paste-By-Typing.  But yeah, it might be a stretch to 
expect an emulator to do inserts and deletes as if it was one line.

Oops... Sorry.  Long post.


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