How about JPMorgan Chase who also use AWS in their enterprise https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/jpmorgan-chase/. It's the tip of the iceberg.

You have obviously been out of the industry for a while. The typical enterprise IT system these days is heterogeneous. It's all about integration. CICS have recently added support for correlation tokens so a transaction can be tracked to the source of origin on distributed systems.

On 23/10/2021 9:58 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
HSBC is one poorly run bank. Since 2000 to today the stock has been cut in 
half. 60 to 30. So, I wouldn’t be touting their decision making. Also, the AWS 
signing was so they could layoff thousands of employees. A move that wreaks of 
desperation.


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On Friday, October 22, 2021, 9:39 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

On 23/10/2021 9:04 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
No bank needs AWS to process millions of transactions an hour. Every major bank 
does it on the mainframe without the outages AWS injects into the process.
Well, obviously HSBC do and they're the 6th biggest bank in the world.
AWS offers 99.999% uptime SLAs so if HSBC suffered an outage it's going
to be expensive for Amazon.

Talking about outages a few years ago my bank suffered a catastrophic
outage when a batch job was incorrectly restarted from the wrong step.
Wages and pensions were not processed. RBS had a CA7 maintenance error
which caused weeks of chaos which was blamed on lack of skills after
outsourcing their operations to Hyberbad. They were find £57M by the UK
government. Air New Zealand suffered a catastrophic mainframe failure
caused by the incompetence of IBM global services carrying out a DR
test. Customers couldn't board their planes. It doesn't matter how solid
your IT platforms are when humans can make errors.



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On Friday, October 22, 2021, 7:38 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Haha, you don't give up. How about this. HSBC has nearly $3T dollars in
assets. They have integrated their mainframe with Amazons AWS cloud.
You've been pwned man, take a breather.

"For large financial institutions, it can be extremely hard to predict
when your architecture may need to scale to process millions of
financial transactions per day. HSBC addressed this challenge by
integrating its on-premises mainframe with AWS services such as AWS
Lambda, Amazon Kinesis, and Amazon DynamoDB."

https://www.slideshare.net/AmazonWebServices/how-hsbc-uses-serverless-to-process-millions-of-transactions-in-real-time-fsv305-aws-reinvent-2018


On 22/10/2021 7:51 pm, Bill Johnson wrote:
Australia’s largest bank is Commonwealth Bank of Australia with a little over 1 
trillion in assets in Aussie dollars. ANZ banking group #2 at slightly over a 
trillion in assets. Wetpac banking 3rd at around 900 billion in assets. Which 
doesn’t put any of them in the top 20. The 20th bank in the real top 20 is 
Group BPCE of France at approx 1.5 trillion. These numbers are as of October 
10th, 2021.

Millions of transactions a day is comical. Millions per hour is what many banks 
process. 1 billion credit card transactions happen daily. Just credit cards.

I look forward to seeing your proof of an Aussie bank in the top 20.



The link I provided was Australia's largest (and a world top 20) bank
with millions of transactions a day. They're not stupid, production
technology choices are critical which is probably why IBM have spent $$
making sure Kafka runs ok on z/OS.

Caching isn't a new idea. It's a common CICS design pattern using TS so
you don't have to make an expensive call to DB2 or IMS. The customer
solution is not call the mainframe for read transactions. It's not
uncommon, it starting to become pervasive. Writes are a different matter.


However the management was not happy because of that, just because
they want to switch the mainframe off.  Nevermind, the new transaction
system has response times 35-140ms (compared to 4-5ms on mainframe).



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