Robert - thank you - good to know.

Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

“Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you 
are, reputation merely what others think you are.”   - - - John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 6:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Redbooks Rumor

This was posted by Bill Bitner (bitn...@us.ibm.com  on LINUX-390 a week ago:

"I do my best to stay out of the rumor business. Chris Konarski just tweeted 
that it is a misunderstanding"

https://twitter.com/ChrisKonarski/status/1454110707096637442

Chris is the IBM VP WW Technical Sales and Lab Services.

Have a nice weekend everyone.

Regards,
Bill
"Not speaking for IBM as far as they know"      

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Lionel B. Dyck
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 6:53 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Redbooks Rumor

I agree with Cheryl that Redbooks have been some of the BEST documentation 
available from IBM. What I am curious about is if IBM is going to transition 
the Redbooks into something better. With the web there are many more 
opportunities to provide documentation that contains the Redbook content but in 
more usable (and searchable) formats. If that is their plan then I'm on board 
but if they are going to do away with Redbooks, or make them marketing guides, 
then the IBM customer community needs to take a stand and let IBM know that 
they are making a significant mistake that *will* impact their future growth of 
the platform.


Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

“Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you 
are, reputation merely what others think you are.”   - - - John Wooden

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Watson
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Redbooks Rumor

This is really appalling! I hope it's not true, but I have noticed that the 
lack of books related to z/OS has been steadily declining, and I find it very 
distressing. I've always found the Redbooks to be the best documentation ever 
provided by IBM. Unfortunately, most of the Redbooks are now simply marketing 
guides. 

The post from Bill Bitner was from a Linux blog post. Is IBM speaking about 
Linux/Power Redbooks only? Does it also apply to z/OS Redbooks? 

Why isn't there more outrage on this forum? If you don't complain, IBM will 
bury these in one more opportunity to save money while leaving customers 
without the excellent resources they've had in the past.

If you want z/OS Redbooks, please make your voice heard here.

Thanks,
Cheryl

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Cheryl Watson Walker, CEO
Watson & Walker, Inc.
www.watsonwalker.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Neale Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:03 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Redbooks Rumor

I am hearing strong rumors that IBM is about to commit the type of corporate 
facepalm that is the stuff for future textbooks. Apparently Redbooks are no 
longer going to be a thing and the organization disbanded. If there’s one thing 
that has differentiated IBM in the mainframe space has been the quality of its 
documentation and, in particular, the type of HOW-TO information contained 
within Redbooks and Redpieces. These documents turn a “that’d be nice to do” 
into a proof-of-concept and finally into production. In doing so, they must be 
responsible for millions or billions of dollar in revenue to IBM.

Many of the topics of Redbooks cover are complex and even intimidating. They 
provide a step-by-step approach to learning and implementing using a group of 
people actually doing what they’re writing about. This is invaluable.

I hope these rumors are untrue but if not I think we should all be shouting 
from the roof until someone with some sense realizes how shortsighted this 
decision is.

Neale


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