"But that's what KC4z is for", you will hear... - KB
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 5th, 2021 at 7:39 PM, Michael Watkins <0000032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Yes, PDFs, not webpages. > > Sometimes the network on my end is a little shaky. This might especially be > the case in a disaster situation. > > Having the documentation in PDF form and downloaded onto the C: drive of my > laptop gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of > Colin Paice > > Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 9:03 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Redbooks Rumor > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Texas Comptroller's email > system. > > DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you expect them from the sender > and know the content is safe. > > I used to think that Redbooks were an admission that product documentation > was not very good. > > I explained to someone; the product documentation tells you how to adjust > your tappets. What red books did was to say this is how you unlock the car, > put the seat belt on (not always obvious), and tell you if it was an > automatic or stick shift. > > I find the IBM Doc site very slow (10 seconds to get into it) - not a good > > advertisement for IBM servers. (most of the time "scripting") > > I hope they provide PDF's rather than just web pages. > > Colin > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 13:32, Michael Watkins < > 0000032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > "if IBM is going to transition the Redbooks into something better"? > > > > It looks like IBM is transitioning to ibm.com/docs, where an isolated > > > > piece of documentation is given to you without any of the surrounding > > > > related information. This is hardly better. The most expensive part of > > > > z/OS TOC is probably labor. If IBM increases the cost of labor by > > > > failing to provide easy to access documentation, it's just another > > > > blow to the z/OS platform. I thank God that retirement is starting to look > > feasible. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > > Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck > > > > Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 5:53 AM > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: Redbooks Rumor > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Texas Comptroller's > > > > email system. > > > > DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you expect them from the > > > > sender and know the content is safe. > > > > I agree with Cheryl that Redbooks have been some of the BEST > > > > documentation available from IBM. What I am curious about is if IBM is > > > > going to transition the Redbooks into something better. With the web > > > > there are many more opportunities to provide documentation that > > > > contains the Redbook content but in more usable (and searchable) > > > > formats. If that is their plan then I'm on board but if they are going > > > > to do away with Redbooks, or make them marketing guides, then the IBM > > > > customer community needs to take a stand and let IBM know that they > > > > are making a significant mistake that > > > > will impact their future growth of the platform. > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > > > Website: > > > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > > > > lbdsoftware.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmichael.watkins%40CPA.TEXAS.GOV% > > > > 7Cd63bdbe632ee4f2e0bf308d9a0651c56%7C2055feba299d4d0daa5a73b8b42fef08% > > > > 7C0%7C0%7C637717178405312341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > > > > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dBX > > > > aJrsFEfs80ICrD9ka1ZxCxltvqsCIoRhoc9%2Fy%2F1U%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Github: > > > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith > > > > ub.com%2Flbdyck&data=04%7C01%7Cmichael.watkins%40CPA.TEXAS.GOV%7Cd > > > > 63bdbe632ee4f2e0bf308d9a0651c56%7C2055feba299d4d0daa5a73b8b42fef08%7C0 > > > > %7C0%7C637717178405312341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi > > > > LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=t2X1hz > > > > bO6CvrSrgVpXUS3ABfkehHJv0Q3Rj1WtgNhCo%3D&reserved=0 > > > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > > > > you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - - - John Wooden > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > > Behalf Of Cheryl Watson > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:22 PM > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: Redbooks Rumor > > > > This is really appalling! I hope it's not true, but I have noticed > > > > that the lack of books related to z/OS has been steadily declining, > > > > and I find it very distressing. I've always found the Redbooks to be > > > > the best documentation ever provided by IBM. Unfortunately, most of > > > > the Redbooks are now simply marketing guides. > > > > The post from Bill Bitner was from a Linux blog post. Is IBM speaking > > > > about Linux/Power Redbooks only? Does it also apply to z/OS Redbooks? > > > > Why isn't there more outrage on this forum? If you don't complain, IBM > > > > will bury these in one more opportunity to save money while leaving > > > > customers without the excellent resources they've had in the past. > > > > If you want z/OS Redbooks, please make your voice heard here. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheryl > > > > ====================== > > > > Cheryl Watson Walker, CEO > > > > Watson & Walker, Inc. > > > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w > > > > atsonwalker.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmichael.watkins%40CPA.TEXAS.GOV% > > > > 7Cd63bdbe632ee4f2e0bf308d9a0651c56%7C2055feba299d4d0daa5a73b8b42fef08% > > > > 7C0%7C0%7C637717178405312341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > > > > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2F > > > > EYhX0s1YokGWv56my9QdQpQWSpwIotYmyzBJdckBTQ%3D&reserved=0 > > ======================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================== > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > > Behalf Of Neale Ferguson > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:03 PM > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: Redbooks Rumor > > > > I am hearing strong rumors that IBM is about to commit the type of > > > > corporate facepalm that is the stuff for future textbooks. Apparently > > > > Redbooks are no longer going to be a thing and the organization disbanded. > > > > If there's one thing that has differentiated IBM in the mainframe > > > > space has been the quality of its documentation and, in particular, > > > > the type of HOW-TO information contained within Redbooks and > > > > Redpieces. These documents turn a "that'd be nice to do" into a > > > > proof-of-concept and finally into production. In doing so, they must > > > > be responsible for millions or billions of dollar in revenue to IBM. > > > > Many of the topics of Redbooks cover are complex and even intimidating. > > > > They provide a step-by-step approach to learning and implementing > > > > using a group of people actually doing what they're writing about. > > > > This is invaluable. > > > > I hope these rumors are untrue but if not I think we should all be > > > > shouting from the roof until someone with some sense realizes how > > > > shortsighted this decision is. > > > > Neale > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
