When I was young, I worked with older employees; I did not push them out the 
door. Further, there are legal limits on age discrimination. What we are seeing 
is the triumph of cash flow over profits, and it is not what capitalism does in 
a rational environment, any more than the gulag is what socialism does.

In fact, there have been times and places where capitalism discriminated 
against younger workers and, as above, that was not intrinsic to capitalism.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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When we were young, we helped usher out older workers & we didn’t really think 
or care about it. Now that it’s our turn in the ageist barrel, we are shocked & 
dismayed. As Steve said, not really surprising. This is exactly what capitalism 
does.


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On Monday, February 14, 2022, 7:36 AM, Steve Horein <steve.hor...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Not really surprising, but I did not see much empathy for those older
employees (or IBM in general) in the comments of this topic on reddit:
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1dfMy-SfHe1W2vtmpin7YZFmlHchVzEsEnrLinBorh28FKFlMXYGVvu6XH39F0mXTmI_0EEDnePoRd59BgGFUYlInDZj4cS4Lah_KXFSDtt4ROhIKGRu4NEQ5PP3UsGQjqFHpdEYswnDm9LBxXAamuNg9S1GEUV5Xd75UDlGGgedxhOCZhv37kD5OHRnPJfuTlH207FfjDimbiCt9oGHke9YUzhL3BUE28iRAQL7aVI42XlDOVPwLng4LOEppKFyHha1mJtpHDKiZ_-ZsCk_iAB127QAl8hxn5x3mEFA8jNKMudxxjJlZuA1BG3Zjb6tI6ShXov17AD0rzHnNdow0wwrSm3CEnsajFcU_0x_NwVOVg6Q0x_3ViP6uVuFseE31b9B74gWpZsDmQ8JOyH4adN--CvB4KrmojXi7pmufHIYZ5US2wvg1DMwEV8qfoPFgf1sjdkWwdFJ_1xB4J2iepA/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Ftechnology%2Fcomments%2Fsrq7im%2Fibm_executives_called_older_workers_dinobabies%2F

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 5:12 AM Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/economy/ibm-age-discrimination.html
>
> "Another email by a top executive, appearing to refer to older workers,
> mentions a plan to “accelerate change by inviting the ‘dinobabies’ (new
> species) to leave” and make them an “extinct species.”
>
> A third email refers to IBM’s “dated maternal workforce,” an apparent
> allusion to older women, and says: “This is what must change. They really
> don’t understand social or engagement. Not digital natives. A real threat
> for us.”
>
> Joe
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