There was a "count number of random numbers" between 1 and 1M with hercules and stand alone code. Normally you would create a memory image and use ICKDSF to put it on a volume in the IPLTEXT.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:04 PM Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote: > > I'm not an expert at this at all so take what I say with a grain of salt. I > just happened to have two (uninformed?) thoughts: > > 1. If Enzo wanted to write some bare metal code (which I think is a great > idea) -- are there any examples anyone can point him to? Is there any > IPL-able code on the CBT tape or other more-or-less public source that would > serve as an example? > > 2. A cross-assembler or an assembler running on Hercules would seem to me to > be useful and necessary to the effort. (Perhaps that is so obvious as to not > be worth saying.) > > I am trying to picture how nowadays one gets from classic object code to > something one could IPL. The last time I IPL'ed something that was not a > disk-based operating system it was a standalone dump on either cards or tape. > I seem to recall there was some sort of a "link editor" that would produce an > IPL-able image but I do not recall what it was. > > Actually, I have not IPL'ed a box at all since I owned a P/390. What media > will a z114 IPL from, other than DASD? > > Charles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > The RJ45 Ethernet should plug into your network just fine. > > As far as bare metal programming Hercules emulator on your PC might be > easier to write and debug with before putting on actual hardware. > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:44 PM Enzo D'Amato <edam...@octechservices.org> > wrote: > > > > Parwez is correct that this is a M05 model, I will let you know what I have > > in terms of processor capacity as soon as I finish setting up power and > > turn it on. I in terms of my IO card configuration, this is what I > > currently have in the box: > > 2 2 port pcie 8g ficon cards (pcie) > > 2 2 port rj45 Ethernet cards (pcie) > > 1 4 port ficon card (IO drawer) > > 2 16 port escon cards (IO drawer) > > > > I did want to ask however, do that crypto express cards and OSA adapters > > require LICCC codes to enable? Most of my home network is 10GbE, and I > > wanted to put one of those cards in so I can directly network it to my core > > switch, but I don't want to order one if it will not activate. I am > > currently working on sourcing FICON storage, and I will update you if I > > make any headway on that front. I also have a plan and I think I will be > > able to get some mainframe attached virtual tape set up. As Harry > > recommended, I do plan on doing some experimenting with the bare metal on > > the machine, but I don't have much experience with embedded/bare metal > > programming, so I would really be starting from the ground up with that. I > > would like to get in contact with someone about getting software > > disks/licences for my machine. I know that you said that it would be a > > special order as the software is withdrawn from marketing, but considering > > the circumstances, it may not hurt to ask. I would also like to look into > > what would be involved in getting a LICCC capacity upgrade (the z114 is not > > completely out of support until the end of this year). If you know anyone > > who I should reach out to, please let me know. > > > > I am quite close to both the z/VM and Marist events (I am like 20 minutes > > from the IBM Poughkeepsie plant), but I will have to check my calendar to > > see if I can make them (I should be able to, but I may have finals that > > week. I will have to check). > > > > I will keep this list updated as I make progress and work on getting the > > system set up. > > Thank you, > > Enzo Damato > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > > Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:04 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > > > Enzo, > > > > Congratulations on your acquisition! > > > > I’m curious if you happen to know yet the physical model (it’ll be either > > 2818-M05 or 2818-M10) and general capacity details, notably the capacity > > model, number/type(s) of specialty engines (if any; IFLs, zIIPs, ICFs), and > > memory configuration. The capacity model is a letter (A to Z), the number > > 0, and a number 0 to 5. For example, Q02. [A00 would be unfortunate since > > that’d mean no general purpose engines (CPs) are configured. If it’s a Z05 > > you won this lottery, but really any CP capacity is fine for a home lab.] > > Also, have you figured out yet what features you have installed in the I/O > > slots? > > > > As I think I mentioned, if you have a 2818-M10 and/or lots of I/O features > > you might be able to (unofficially, after very careful study) field modify > > the physical configuration so that you’re powering fewer components to > > reduce electricity consumption and heat output in your home lab. But if you > > have a -M05 with just a few I/O features then this’ll be a moot point. > > > > I wonder if the machine has any Crypto Express adapters. > > > > I really like the suggestion to visit the z/VM conference if you can. There > > are bound to be many curious and knowledgeable people there. If 21st > > Century Software happens to be at that conference then you could ask them > > about VSEn 6.3 if that interests you. There’s also a mainframe conference > > coming up at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, from June 12 to 14, > > if convenient. > > > > https://ecc.marist.edu/web/conference2022 > > > > Operating systems that do not require ECKD/FICON-attached storage > > (technically, leaving any licensing issues aside): Linux, z/VM, z/VSE, > > VSEn. Possibly also MUSIC/SP, as a guest of z/VM anyway, but I’m guessing a > > bit. I think you can start the z/OS Customized Offerings Driver without > > actually having any attached storage, but then you can’t do that much with > > it. > > > > Operating systems that require ECKD/FICON-attached storage: z/OS, z/TPF. > > (z/TPF is even a little more particular about minimum storage > > configurations. I believe it requires some physical or virtual tape as > > well.) > > > > There are some bootable “mini things” that people don’t generally consider > > operating systems but that do serve useful functions. Standalone IOCP and > > Jan Jaeger’s ZZSA are two good examples. > > > > Good luck, and please keep us posted. > > > > — — — — — > > Timothy Sipples > > Senior Architect > > Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity > > IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific > > sipp...@sg.ibm.com > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA > Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
