Tony thinks IBM is handing over 1.6 billion. Because the judge ordered it. In the article it states IBM is going to appeal. Which means they don’t pay anything, yet. Once they file a Notice of Appeal, usually within 30 days, with documentation of why they think the trial judge was wrong, the appeals court will decide whether the case gets heard. (Very likely) It gets scheduled, might be a while, and the appeals court might overturn or uphold the judgment. If upheld, IBM can appeal further. If overturned, BMC can appeal. Meanwhile, BMC & IBM can negotiate a settlement while the appeals play out. It could take years. No money changes hands while it plays out. No matter what the judge said. I was in law enforcement and was going to be a lawyer about 20 years ago. Took the LSAT, passed with flying colors and was offered seats at a number of law schools nationwide.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 9:34 PM, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote: Well, look at the history (I saved it below): You: ....the headline states and the OP assumes exactly that [IBM will now hand over 1.6 billion]... Tony: ...no. The subject line is exactly "IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC". You said (among other things) that the articles headline states that IBM will now hand over the fine. I don't think you meant that, you were conflating the headline with the article, while distinguishing between the judgement against IBM and IBM's putative obedience. Tony pointed out, correctly, that the headline did not after all say exactly that. He was picking out just that one part of your words, not the whole thing. The discussion kind of went south from there. I'm guessing you thought Tony was disagreeing with the entirety of your post, not just that one part, and the two of you started sliding down the slippery slope toward a flame war. As usual, it isn't necessary. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. -Churchill */ -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 20:09 Explain it to me Bob. I gotta hear this. --- On Friday, June 3, 2022, 8:02 PM, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote: No, Bill, you don't, or at least you didn't in this case. I don’t mind explaining it to you, if you really missed it. If you don't care, I'll leave it. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 19:03 I read just fine. There’s more than just the headline. --- On Friday, June 3, 2022, 6:58 PM, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote: Do you not understand how to read? --- On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 17:11, Bill Johnson <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > And they’re appealing. So no payment will be made yet. Do you not understand > how courts work? --- On Friday, June 3, 2022, 5:09 PM, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote: Uh, no. The subject line is exactly "IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC". --- On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 15:49, Bill Johnson <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Saying it will or won’t be overturned is just as silly as insinuating IBM > will now hand over 1.6 billion at this stage of the proceedings. Yet, the > headline states and the OP assumes exactly that. Gleefully I might add. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
