Partial restore is a can of worms. What happens if foo has a PE, bar supersedes the associated APAR, the APPLY only installed foo because bar had been received and you now restore bar?.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jay Maynard [jaymayn...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E oddity? I'd always understood that RESTORE could do this, but it required a lot more work on the part of SMP/E, and the purpose of ACCEPT was to make RESTORE work much faster. Every shop I ever worked at didn't ACCEPT anything (except for those very rare SYSMODs that needed it for sysgen processing) until just before a maintenance cycle and accepted that RESTORE was going to take more work because of it. On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:12 AM Binyamin Dissen <bdis...@dissensoftware.com> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:45:48 +0000 "Kurt J. Quackenbush" <ku...@us.ibm.com > > > wrote: > > :>> Yeah, this all makes sense. Basically, the idea of APPLY is to build > the LMOD with everything that's been ACCEPTed or previously APPLYed to it. > :>SMP/E has enough information to reconstruct it from scratch if needed, > but will save itself the work of rebuilding the LMOD from the MODs if it > doesn't have to do it. > > :>> You mention that the MODs are applied from PTFs; I assume that APARs > are also reapplied if not SUPd (which they would be required to be if the > PTF you're working with would clobber them). > > :>Yes, FUNCTIONs, PTFs, APARs, USERMODs, whatever SYSMOD last replaced a > MOD (the MOD's RMID) can be used to obtain a usable copy of that MOD from > the SMPPTS. > > :>> Does the same processing apply to RESTORE? Or does it always build > from scratch? > > :>RESTORE does behave the same as APPLY in this respect. > > RESTORE no longer requires that other maintenance to the involved elements > be > ACCEPTed? > > It can rebuild the load modules using APPLYed-only elements? > > -- > Binyamin Dissen <bdis...@dissensoftware.com> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dissensoftware.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7Cdd9b47879f82456b1b0108dad2d4e0d2%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C638054109022265623%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=fy3zfqCsG5c3H8e5dPH1398eoPazfy3z33IlblYs8Xg%3D&reserved=0 > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
