And IIRC, the Hollerith company who invented the tabulating machine that counted the census was one of the 3 smaller companies that merged into what became IBM. So yeah, the writers played a bit fast and loose with the early history...
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Gene Hudders Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 4:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance I wonder about the accuracy of this article saying that IBM was involved in the 1890 census. From IBM history: IBM, in full International Business Machines Corporation, leading American computer manufacturer, with a major share of the market both in the United States and abroad. Its headquarters are in Armonk, New York. It was incorporated in 1911 as the Computing-Tabulating-Recording Company in a consolidation of three smaller companies that made punch-card tabulators and other office products. The company assumed its present name in 1924 under the leadership of Thomas Watson, a man of considerable marketing skill who became general manager in 1914 and had gained complete control of the firm by 1924. 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See: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/15/business/us-vsibm.html__;!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pS6liOCRl2ymXVw4TfAc9Tp2fdHiOVVAusddqOnxRnEkO9MpRkenr6xJeegr6LM72GAGOC8-RhzE2E-s_30HGvk-7cED-O3MAWZC$ which claims: The trial began in May 1975. Before the outset, the Government estimated that the presentation of its case would last 60 days. Instead, it took three years. The Justice Department is on its third lead counsel. Robert H. Bork, a Yale law professor, has dubbed the case ''the antitrust division's Vietnam.'' Moreover, given the rapid pace of change in the computer industry, the case now centers on a market situation that existed two or three technological generations ago. ''It's pretty much an historical curiosity,'' an I.B.M. competitor concedes. Some outside observers view the I.B.M. case as proof that the Justice Department cannot and should not be trying to restructure major global industries. Irving S. 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I find it disingenuous when someone doesn't mention the antitrust lawsuit filed against IBM in 1969 and dropped in 1982. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fcs.stanford.edu*2Fpeople*2Feroberts*2Fcs181*2Fprojects*2Fcorporate-monopolies*2Fgovernment_ibm.html&data=05*7C01*7Cmichael.watkins*40CPA.TEXAS.GOV*7C0c7eb32d389147a4d8d608db19d51d54*7C2055feba299d4d0daa5a73b8b42fef08*7C0*7C0*7C638132175332879927*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=1AB7x6vngOKZs4xUbWETKljQKD8miQNyYFi9fQAhb2k*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pS6liOCRl2ymXVw4TfAc9Tp2fdHiOVVAusddqOnxRnEkO9MpRkenr6xJeegr6LM72GAGOC8-RhzE2E-s_30HGvk-7cED-FJTxTkp$ Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, February 28, 2023, 4:15 PM, Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fspectrum.ieee.org*2Fibms-fall-from-world-dominance&data=05*7C01*7Cmichael.watkins*40CPA.TEXAS.GOV*7C0c7eb32d389147a4d8d608db19d51d54*7C2055feba299d4d0daa5a73b8b42fef08*7C0*7C0*7C638132175332879927*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=sLXMAqg*2FEOpsL9aVRAPRxa*2FZOBHM22g0d3L9G8VI8EA*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pS6liOCRl2ymXVw4TfAc9Tp2fdHiOVVAusddqOnxRnEkO9MpRkenr6xJeegr6LM72GAGOC8-RhzE2E-s_30HGvk-7cED-PsCR94m$ Not negative overall, just recognizing that things have changed, for the most part. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. 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