> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 7:40 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF > > Why would anyone think IBM wants to sell a mainframe to everyone? Any > more than Tesla wants to sell to people who buy 15-20k autos. Someone > needing 20 MSUs would be a perfect candidate for outsourcing to someone > who outsources mainframe capacity. > Which is what we did. And shut the system down at the end of the 5 year contract > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023, 9:36 AM, Pommier, Rex > <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote: > > If a company is using a 20 MSU system and is forced to buy a 200 MSU system > because that's the smallest available, unless something drastic happens to > hardware AND software pricing, the company isn't going to be looking for > "what else can I put on this expensive and woefully underutilized machine", > they're going to be looking at "where can I move my 20 MSUs worth of > processing to get rid of this expensive machine". > > We're running a 2-way, 316 MSU machine and my business customers would > squawk loudly if I had to move our workload to a 4 way with no more > horsepower. We have several single-threaded processes that run that would > be woefully impacted if the per-engine thruput was halved. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Andrew Rowley > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 5:34 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF > > On 27/06/2023 5:40 pm, Gibney, Dave wrote: > > 200 MSU was much more than we needed. Maybe 20 or so at our peaks. > And the z/OS and ISV charges at 200 levels would have been intolerable. > > That's why I keep qualifying it with ISVs would have to adjust their pricing. > While the smallest system is 13 MSU they have no reason to do that, but if the > smallest available system was 200 MSU I think they would be forced to adjust. > > If you are using 100% of a 20 MSU system, z/OS is just an expensive system > that can't do much more than run the stuff still around from the 90s. > > If you are using 20 MSU of a 200 MSU system, it's an expensive system hugely > underutilized, and maybe people start asking what work can be moved there, > how to make better use of the data it contains etc? > > -- > Andrew Rowley > Black Hill Software > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from > disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is > not the > intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this > message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, > distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on > it, is > strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this > message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or > hard > copy format. Thank you. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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