> On 19 Jul 2023, at 9:52 am, kekronbekron 
> <000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> Here's a dumb and bold prediction - the guts of RHEL (CoreOS) will be laid 
> bare within zOS.

Nice idea, but I doubt it. 

> USS becomes LSS. zOS native containers are actually normal containers that 
> you see in the linux world.
> DSFS and zCX end up helping to blur the boundaries between zOS and LSS.

Containers on their own are of limited use. You really need clusters and 
orchestration for it to be useful.  We have z/CX Foundation for Red Hat 
OpenShift which requires 6 zIIPs just to idle. I’m sure it will get there in 
the end but it’s a dog at the moment.

> zOS is not going away. But we could all use a total re-think of zOSMF.
> 
> - KB
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, July 19th, 2023 at 6:17 AM, Jon Perryman <jperr...@pacbell.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> IBM RHEL announced it's move to closed source (IBM RedHat Enterprise Linux). 
>> With some changes, DB2, RACF and other z/OS products could run in Linux on 
>> z16 in one sysplexed Linux image. We know it's possible because IBM moved 
>> Unix and TCP into z/OS. IBM RHEL said closed source would force non-paying 
>> customers to buy RHEL licenses but this makes no sense. Something else must 
>> be in play.
>> I created a survey at https://forms.gle/ZTPXsDJo8Z4H93sv7 to gain insights 
>> into IBM's decision to close source RHEL. You can skip the survey if you 
>> don't want to take it and view the survey results through this website. Feel 
>> free to pass this along.
>> I think IBM wants to integrate z/OS products to retain their investments and 
>> expand their customer base..
>> Why is the z/OS community ignoring IBM RHEL closed source? Are software 
>> vendors preparing their products for Linux?
>> 
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