I actually did some work for the Bank of China at one of their NY City data centers, and at the time tho not limited to it they were running Z/VSE
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of P H <000004843e86df79-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 5:20:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: How does Chinese banks runs their IT? Re the comment about 'limited to DOS/VSE'. Not true now. The largest Chinese bank, possibly the world (all depends how you define 'largest') uses z/OS, with a high availability configuration. Unless something has changed during the past few years, I will suggest they were 'bleeding' edge in exploiting z 🙂 ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> Sent: 28 July 2023 04:06 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: How does Chinese banks runs their IT? I believe that many Chinese banks ran mainframe but were limited to DOS/VSE not MVS due to technology embargoes. I also heard that huge numbers were running bootleg versions, including Hercules. When I worked in Indonesia, the company I worked at (A state enterprise) ran lots of unlicensed software, IBM and third parties often overlooked this in order to sell hardware. At the time, Hitachi were their main competitor. On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:44 AM Radoslaw Skorupka < 00000471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I would rephrase the question. > We know the 95 of top 100 banks are using mainframes. The same for > airlines, retailers, etc. > Numbers presented may differ slightly, but it doesn't matter. > > The question is: WHAT ABOUT THE REST??? > I would like to know in details the remaining 5 cases. > > > > BTW: In Poland, due to historical reasons like communism and COCOM > (export limitations) we were not using advanced technologies. > In fact, before the 1989 IT in banking almost did not existed. Then we > started from scratch, due to still existing limitations we started from > PCs, LAN and Netware. And ICL DRS 300 (very poor). Then Unix systems > arrived. > In fact the first mainframe-based core banking system was launched in > 2000. I know it well, because I was the person who launched it. > Yes, it was pure-Internet (no branch offices) bank, called mBank. > Today we have 3 largest banks on mainframes and some foreign banks (like > Citi or DB) having their mainframes somewhere "in the cloud", means abroad. > More, we have huge HSBC IT division in Cracow, despite HSBC banking > business is not present in Poland. It it the largest IT employer in > Cracow. With mainframe division. > We also support Nordea, which is also not present in Poland (the were, > but they sold the business and now hire 4000+ employees). > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. Bickerdike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
