Perhaps it didn't register?

Bill Hitefield
Dino-Software Corporation
800.480.DINO
www.dino-software.com

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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2023 11:18 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What's the fastest way to clear a register? Was: Trucks and 
> Politics
> 
> It was a joke to help get us off the Truck topic.
> It didn't work.
> 
> On 8/8/2023 5:30 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > Well, SLR, SR and XR have less of a I-cache hit then the others. What about,
> e.g., SGR, SLGR, XFR?
> >
> >
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> > ________________________________________
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
> > behalf of Attila Fogarasi [fogar...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:19 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: What's the fastest way to clear a register? Was: Trucks
> > and Politics
> >
> > Starting with zEC12 the 4 common ways to clear a register are
> > identical
> > speed: LHI/LGHI, XR, SR, SLR.  On earlier models it varied due to
> > differences in pipeline implementation and going way back, to
> > limitations in microcode.  For current machines there is a lot of
> > capability for implementing optimization context, so it isn't so much
> > single instructions being optimized but the outcome of a sequence.
> > Clearing a register is recognized as a trivial special case (IBM has the 
> > patent).
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:03 AM Tom Brennan
> > <t...@tombrennansoftware.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So what's the fastest way to clear a register?
> >>
> >> Maybe that will get things back to mainframes, and I even know what a
> >> mainframe is.
> >>
> >> On 8/7/2023 4:42 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> >>> America should never allow trucks as large as we do. Should also not
> >> permit doubles and even triples and all trucks should have a lower
> >> speed limit. But we all know lives aren’t nearly as important as
> >> profits for trucking companies. America also had an opportunity to
> >> limit the size of regular vehicles and fossil fuels usage but failed
> >> miserably because Americans are self centered, piggish, and environmental
> denialists.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, August 7, 2023, 7:32 PM, Bob Bridges
> >>> <robhbrid...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is off-topic, and I'll happily take it up with both Bill and
> >>> Shmuel
> >> offline if requested.  But I may as well point out that "fewer
> >> deaths" may not be as simple as they're assuming.  It seems likely to
> >> me as well that if we had smaller trucks going slower, fewer people
> >> would die in accidents caused by bigger trucks going faster.  But how
> >> many people would die because of smaller trucks going slower?  You
> >> gotta compare deaths to deaths, not simply deaths to nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Why would people die from smaller trucks going slower?  Well, a good
> >> deal less cargo would be transported as a result, and I surmise (but
> >> it's only surmise) that there'd be a lot more pressure on drivers, as
> >> a result, to produce more.  Some of that pressure would translate to tired
> drivers.
> >> And all of it would translate to more expensive transportation,
> >> meaning that poorer people would have increased difficulty affording
> >> the goods that are cheaper now.
> >>>
> >>> Don't assume I'm saying that it's better as we do things now.  I'm
> >>> not;
> >> I'm just saying that "this cause of death would be reduced" is no
> >> help unless you can estimate how many deaths would also increase.
> >> And if anyone thinks there'd be NO deaths owing to more expensive
> >> goods, I'll just shut up.
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
> >>>
> >>> /* A good scare is worth more than good advice.  -Horace (65 BC – 8
> >>> BC)
> >> */
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> >> Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 18:45
> >>>
> >>> For Americans here who’ve never been to Europe, trucks in Europe are
> >> much smaller than US trucks, are required to have governors to limit
> >> their speed, and are restricted to the right lane. The result is far
> >> fewer traffic deaths involving trucks.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, Europeans almost never drive pickups and their
> >>> automobiles
> >> are much smaller.
> >>>
> >>> Their rates of deaths and serious injury are far less than America.
> >>>
> >>> So for you pro life people, perhaps some road restrictions would
> >>> keep
> >> more people alive.
> >>>
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