I think that instead of posting surly replies refrain from posting. No need
for unpleasantness.
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 01:37:00 a.m. EDT, Brian Westerman
<brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote:
I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance
from time to time that is very useful. I completely understand that oftentimes
they want the person to RTFM, which makes a lot of sense because you also don't
want the list to become a primary school. The "new guys" need to learn how to
use the manuals and I think the "old guys" are trying to, in their own way,
help them to see that using the manuals and figuring stuff out is a good thing.
Where it becomes an issue is when the newbie honestly can't figure it out and
may have truly tried to find the solution on their own.
It might be helpful for them, in fact everyone, to disclose what you have
already tried or read about, that way everyone will see that they are trying
and won't just kiss them off as using the list instead of manuals (and the
internet) as opposed to using it in conjunction with attempting to learn.
Sometimes they may have actually read the solution, but just don't see it as
such, and by disclosing what they have tried so far will allow people to let
them know where they missed something. I think that no one likes to think that
the guy asking the question is not even really trying to work the problem. But
without disclosing the path they are currently on, we have no way to know
otherwise.
Just a thought.
Brian
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