"You may wonder why you might need -R. The SSH command exposes identification 
(e.g. userid & password). -L exposes a z/OS userid & password on each TN3270 
computer which is not easily protected. -R exposes Unix/Windows userid/password 
on z/OS where you can fully protect them in 1 location and easily restrict 
access."

I'm sorry that it went that way, but referring to Jon's statement above I 
simply asked how -L  exposes userid and password.     Jon redirected the 
question to a discussion of storing passwords in script files.   Of course we 
can all agree that that is a problem, but it wasn't the issue.

PS> I tunnel tn3270 in ssh all the time, and I never store any passwords in 
files or scripts or pass them in command lines.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http:// <http://dovetail.com>coztoolkit.com

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Rick Troth wrote:
> bottom posting ... refreshing ... sincerely
> 
> 
> On 1/11/24 14:08, Jon Perryman wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:47:45 -0600, Kirk Wolf <k...@coztoolkit.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Did I say anything about using passwords for ssh?
> >> Again, this has nothing to do with your assertion that
> >> using tn3270 over a ssh tunnel would expose the userid and password.
> > This thread is specifically about using ssh tunnel to provide SSL for 
> > non-SSL TCP apps. TN3270 (without enabling SSL) is being used for context 
> > that everyone in this group understands.
> >
> > You ask how I would get your TSO userid / password when you run TN3270 thru 
> > an ssh tunnel. Very simply, the userid & password would likely be the same 
> > for both. Assuming you automated ssh with userid & password exposed, I just 
> > look at your script.
> 
> 
> I don't understand the strife.
> It's true that we normally go username/password for 3270 sign-on.
> It's also true that we *can* sign-on using username/password with SSH. 
> But the latter is not recommended when you have SSH keys. And the 
> subject is "unattended" where keys would be *very* desirable.
> 
> 
> -- R; <><
> 
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