no no ... they DON'T give it away! Never have. Never will. And I didn't
mean to suggest that.
Someone managed to get CMS Pipelines included with base VM in the early
1990s. Dunno who that was but I'd like to buy him or her a beer ... and
not just at SCIDS.
Customers have been clamoring for TSO Pipelines similarly included with
base MVS ever since. And why not?
YES, "they" developed the full product and YES, they rightly should get
compensated.
Fact is, CMS/TSO Pipelines is the brainchild of >one< man, John Hartmann
(thus we sometimes call it "Hartmann Pipes").
No doubt hundreds of others contributed, but (speculating from the
outside) it's not like it chewed up the entire budget of (e.g.) the
Hursley lab.
Sorry, a solid capitalist who thinks customers should get their money's
worth. IBM would do well to invest in z/OS by including TSO Pipelines.
This stuff has been in development since the early 1980s.
-- R; <><
On 1/13/25 12:47 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
<snark>Right, someone else should give it away. ~I~ don't want to develop the full
product and then not charge for it, but IBM should.</snark>
Sorry, just the capitalist in me sniping a little.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Rick Troth
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 12:10
CMS/TSO Pipelines (with a common codebase) is one of the most powerful
productivity tools in the industry. There have been several attempts to bring
this capability to other platforms, including some attempts to provide a
no-charge alternative on TSO. (C'mon, IBM, the up-charge is killin us!! Stop
nickel-and-diming your customers.)
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