On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 at 14:52, Steve Beaver <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I am going to have to bite the bullet and Upgrade from MS Office 2010 to
>
> Office 365 mostly for Outlook on 2 PC, My Desktop and a Laptop.  I have my
> own Domain.
> Any suggestions ?


IMHO the big recent problem with Office 365 is the introduction of
pervasive AI "features". They are very hard to avoid, and to add insult to
injury, they charge a significant amount for the "privilege". I managed to
avoid a roughly 25% increase for my own (family) subscription by
downgrading the automatic "upgrade" before the next monthly renewal, but I
don't know if that's still possible, or how long it may last.

(In passing, Google is doing the same thing with their products, except
that there is no option to not pay the hefty price for the AI junk.)

The other big issue I find is that the Office Windows apps have been turned
into essentially front ends to web apps, and significant basic function has
been removed. For just one example, roughly forever I have used .PST files
to contain archived mail in Outlook. I have files by year and major topic
going back 20+ years with every kind of business and family correspondence,
including attachments, all nicely organized and multiply backed up. Now
with "New Outlook", .PST files are simply not supported. Under pressure
they claim to be working on some kind of read-only support, but it's not
there yet, and the specs keep changing. Basically this fundamental feature
has gone away. Their solution is to just keep everything online on Onedrive
and/or Sharepoint (for which you'll have to pay, and also trust that they
won't just lose and/or sell your data, to say nothing about using it to
train their AIs), but even then there are no tools to convert all your old
PSTs.

I am slowly trying to work my way back out of both the Microsoft and Google
infrastructures, but it's a big task.

So what do do? I think you can still buy a licence for Office 2019 (or
higher? I'm not keeping track) as a non subscription product. Of course
it's mostly the same code, but at least you can install updates at your own
pace, and avoid the pervasive AI. For a while, of course - there is no long
term solution using these products.

For email, you can use various combos of decent Windows app mail clients
(Thunderbird, etc. even Pegasus Mail is still going, though still not open
source, I believe). Of course you then need an email server - you can host
your own (which can be quite fun and isn't all that hard) either on your
own premises or in the cloud, or buy service from a number of "not big
tech" providers. Some of those mail providers also have their own web and
phone email clients. There's lots to explore.

If you are consulting/contracting, then your customer(s) may want you to
use their email system, which is almost certainly Microsoft cloud based, so
you'll need a client that will talk to their system. My main client (using
the whole Microsoft infrastructure) arbitrarily disallowed all Android
email apps other than the Microsoft one, which is now taking up a lot of
space on my phone, and which required me to give device privs to the
customer so they can wipe my phone any time they like. Well maybe you can
partition your phone, or have one for each customer, and so on, but it all
adds a lot of overhead to what was once straightforward.

Overall I'd say you should play around with several approaches to try to
use the best for each situation. Assuming you have time. And of course:
backups, backups, backups...

Best of luck - keep us posted.

Tony H.

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