>exactly what the mainframe marketing people are trying to fight?

It's time to be brutally honest. z/OS marketing could not sell water to a 
thirsty man. IBM has not sold 1 z/OS to Google.

Why has z/OS marketing sabotaged z/OS for decades? z/OS is decades ahead of 
Linux but the computing experts are clueless. If z/OS is to survive, it will 
require the z/OS community to educate the world but first, the z/OS community 
needs to understand what Linux is NOT.

> Isn't "Linux in the cloud is cheaper and easier than Z in the cloud"? 

ROTFLOL, "easier", absolutely not. 25 years of cloud and the computer industry 
is still clueless about the cloud.

There's a reason public clouds (e.g. Google cloud, Amazon AWS and Microsoft 
Azure) thrive. Setting up and maintaining robust Linux private cloud can be 
tricky.

Setting up z/OS private cloud services is absurdly simple. The only required 
change is "VIPA load balancing". In less 5 minutes, you configure an IP address 
that is distributed among the systems in a SYSPLEX. For instance, consider DB2 
for z/OS running on 3 LPARS in a sysplex. Nothing complicated because database 
requests to LPARs where DB2 is active. You easily add more disk, CPU, network 
or other resources. They are automatically added to the z Cloud without 
thinking nor must you learn something new. z/OS is a cloud before the cloud 
became an idea.

On the other hand, try setting up a private cloud database on 3 Linux 
computers. Disks are not shared so you must implement NAS. By default, 
databases are unique to each Linux and you must configure them to run from NAS 
and locking. Networking becomes a challenge. Ask yourself why public clouds are 
so popular. 

Don't forget that public clouds are not compatible. Switching to Google cloud, 
Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure or ... requires conversion. It's not as simple as 
moving the data.

> why is mainframe hybrid cloud a great solution for IBM's customers but not 
> for IBM?

This statement is wrong in so many ways. I'm surprised that no one has brought 
this up.

1. Hybrid clouds combine public clouds with private clouds. Public cloud 
providers such as Google cloud, Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure used along with 
a customer's private cloud.

For instance, I worked on the implementation of SAP High Availability (which 
required database service, SAP Application services and SAP enque services). 
SAPAS and SAPES easily use the customer's private cloud. For those customers 
without z/OS, using a public cloud greatly reduces the cloud database headaches.

For z/OS customers, DB2 for z/OS eliminated the need for a public cloud 
database.

2. Public, private or hybrid clouds have nothing to do with hardware nor 
vendor. Services are provided by a cloud and those services are defined by that 
cloud.

3. As for customers and IBM use of private, public or hybrid, this depends on 
needs.

>>instead. Seems nothing new, but... the cloud *won't be based on System Z
>>hardware*. It will be emulation under Linux.

The idea behind the cloud is that you don't know about the hardware and 
software. Is it z? You don't know and you don't care. 

>That "it's not a real mainframe" thing put me off at first but then I realized 
>that a zPDT
> is not a real mainframe either, right? It too is Z emulation under Linux.

Maybe some are real and some emulated. Externally it will be difficult to 
determine.

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