I just emailed an Indian recruiter Approximately 200 of us are now working with the Communication Workers of America (CWA) and the base salary now for zOS Skill will now be $150 an hour W-2 or 165 an hour C2C
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Friday, February 6, 2026 11:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] mainframe skills - was cross posted Texas Instruments was complaining about EDS calling employees Systems Engineers, so we had to change the name. But somehow Sanitation Engineer is OK. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, February 6, 2026 10:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] mainframe skills - was cross posted Yeah but we rejected that when the state of NJ decided that systems programmers should fall under Cosmetology, while about the same period Texas was pursuing those claiming to be engineers that had not been granted such a legal title. This involved IBM who had CEs (Customer Engineers), and the like. NaSPA (National association of Systems programmers- can't remember what the "A" stood for) was alive at that time, as was an informal group of computer contractors/consultants. No, I'm not kidding, I didn't make it up. Scott Sherer was the Pres of NaSPA and he retired and Radi Shurbaji (I think that was how he spelled it -- we worked at Boole & Babbage about the same time) manged to become the president and it then tried to be all things to all people and it collapsed. (Mainframe, Windows, networking, etc. etc.) RMPCP continued as a group (contractor/consultants) until Robert M. Pritchett died. Sigh. On 2/6/2026 11:02 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > The traditional solution to this problem is a trade union. > > Just sayin' > > Charles > > On 2/5/2026 6:01 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: >> Tom. My point is if we all push back to >> the Indian recruiters for a sold month the point will get >> made. Most recruiters constantly call even if you are working >> you push back and help the community at large >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> No one said I could type with one thumb >> >>> On Feb 5, 2026, at 18:52, Tom >>> Brennan<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ok, I need a job to eat, but instead of eating at $60 an >>> hour I'll hold out for $120. The BMI chart says I'm just a >>> smidge into the overweight category, so I should be ok for a >>> couple of weeks. >>> >>>> On 2/5/2026 11:09 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: >>>> If we ALL push back all at the same time recruiters and >>>> companies will get the point >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email [email protected] with the message: INFO >>> IBM-MAIN >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email [email protected] with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN -- Regards, Steve Thompson MaGA: Make Mainframes Great Again: Mainframes were doing Cloud before "Cloud" was a thing. Java, scripting, HA, MQ, Linux, client-server... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
