I was a Systems Engineer for EDS 45 years ago. At a GM facility.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, February 6, 2026, 12:33 PM, Doug Fuerst <[email protected]> wrote: How does this decision affect companies who are US based? Do they have to work through the CWA? And what is the CWA cut? Dues? Doug Fuerst ------ Original Message ------ >From "Steve Beaver" <[email protected]> To [email protected] Date 2/6/2026 12:22:47 PM Subject mainframe skills - was cross posted >I just emailed an Indian recruiter > >Approximately 200 of us are now working with the Communication Workers of >America (CWA) and the base salary now for zOS Skill will now be $150 an hour >W-2 or 165 an hour C2C > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael >Sent: Friday, February 6, 2026 11:02 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] mainframe skills - was cross posted > >Texas Instruments was complaining about EDS calling employees Systems >Engineers, so we had to change the name. But somehow Sanitation Engineer is OK. > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >Steve Thompson >Sent: Friday, February 6, 2026 10:31 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] mainframe skills - was cross posted > >Yeah but we rejected that when the state of NJ decided that >systems programmers should fall under Cosmetology, while about >the same period Texas was pursuing those claiming to be engineers >that had not been granted such a legal title. This involved IBM >who had CEs (Customer Engineers), and the like. > >NaSPA (National association of Systems programmers- can't >remember what the "A" stood for) was alive at that time, as was >an informal group of computer contractors/consultants. > >No, I'm not kidding, I didn't make it up. Scott Sherer was the >Pres of NaSPA and he retired and Radi Shurbaji (I think that was >how he spelled it -- we worked at Boole & Babbage about the same >time) manged to become the president and it then tried to be all >things to all people and it collapsed. (Mainframe, Windows, >networking, etc. etc.) > >RMPCP continued as a group (contractor/consultants) until Robert >M. Pritchett died. Sigh. > > > >On 2/6/2026 11:02 AM, Charles Mills wrote: >> The traditional solution to this problem is a trade union. >> >> Just sayin' >> >> Charles >> >> On 2/5/2026 6:01 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: >>> Tom. My point is if we all push back to >>> the Indian recruiters for a sold month the point will get >>> made. Most recruiters constantly call even if you are working >>> you push back and help the community at large >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> No one said I could type with one thumb >>> >>>> On Feb 5, 2026, at 18:52, Tom >>>> Brennan<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, I need a job to eat, but instead of eating at $60 an >>>> hour I'll hold out for $120. The BMI chart says I'm just a >>>> smidge into the overweight category, so I should be ok for a >>>> couple of weeks. >>>> >>>>> On 2/5/2026 11:09 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: >>>>> If we ALL push back all at the same time recruiters and >>>>> companies will get the point >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email [email protected] with the message: INFO >>>> IBM-MAIN >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email [email protected] with the message: INFO >>> IBM-MAIN > >-- >Regards, >Steve Thompson > >MaGA: >Make Mainframes Great Again: >Mainframes were doing Cloud before "Cloud" was a thing. >Java, scripting, HA, MQ, Linux, client-server... > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
