On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Timothy Sipples <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Simply put, we *DON'T* have such animals [Java programs on z/OS]. > >Nor will we in the foreseeable future. > > There are no possible business justifications that would lead to > implementing Java programs on z/OS? No matter what the benefits, no matter > what the business requirements your users and customers have, as long as > you're around it'll never happen. Am I understanding you correctly, or am I > misinterpreting you? > > Perhaps Ed is just stating what _is_ at his shop. There are a lot of shops out there, ours included, which are basically "functionally stabilized". A few years ago, we had some IT management which started a Linux push. Part of which was using Java instead of .NET on the Windows boxen and in addition to COBOL on z/OS. They were promptly replaced. Java, in truth or not, is perceived around here as dead technology. It is also "expensive" in CPU resources compared to most COBOL programs. Now, one could argue that with a zIIP and zAAP on zIIP processing, that Java is actually cheaper to run. But then there is the upgrade cost to add a zIIP processor. Oh, and we're stuck on a z9BC due to lack of money to go to current technology. But I'm not arguing against PDSE usage. Most of our application libraries are PDSEs. Mainly because we're too lazy to do a compress <grin/>. I wish that I really knew why COBOL 5.1 uses them. I read it had something to do with "embedded" debugging information. But I guess that I'm out of date on what can be done with a PDSE (user loadable classes?). I need to delve into the books more. But that leads to frustration because I know that I will _never_ see this. For good or ill, this is my final job. Not because I am ready (personally or financially) to retire. But because no company would hire me due to my age and health. I'm not real sick, but I'm not as healthy as I was when I was 30. With health care costs going into low Earth orbit, I (like the z itself) am simply "too expensive" for all the the largest of companies. Thanks for the knife in the back, Mr. President. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Timothy Sipples > GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore) > E-Mail: [email protected] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- As of next week, passwords will be entered in Morse code. Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
