Peter, In reality it is just "time".  Converting the libraries from PDS to PDSE 
can proceduralized to some extent. Probably north of 90% of the libraries can 
be hit an an appropriate time, and the remaining hard to get ones will take 
some special actions to get them when they are free. One of the biggies for us 
is not just the conversion, but how much space to add to the datasets to 
accommodate over time the larger load module sizes for the debug information.

Additional heartburn for us is all the new AMODE/RMODE restrictions that is 
going to force quite a bit of analysis and research.

We won't do a "recompile everything" approach, that is too high risk.   And I 
am sure we have some amount of the stuff that incompatible according to the 
migration guide.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

Tom, to use the process you describe there are literally hundreds of thousands 
of JCL's to be changed, and tens of thousands of PROC's, and that is just one 
large shop.  The only "zones" are QA and Production, shared by all 
applications.  Where do you start such a project?  The cost of regression 
testing alone is huge, especially in already CPU-constrained testing 
environments.

New business lines, new regulatory issues, new clients:  All these will take 
precedence over any kind of maintenance project, whatever the eventual ROI 
might be.

Programmers like me would desperately love to see the new compiler in action 
and get going on using the enhanced facilities -- but the procedural hurdles 
that IBM has thrown up with this PDSE requirement are going to be staggeringly 
expensive to cross over.

Will-we-nil-we, I suppose we will eventually get there, but it's not going to 
be quick or easy, and far, far from cheap.

Peter


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