John,

        Actually, I do agree with you, and no offense was taken.  
\
        Interestingly enough, when I was interviewing here, it was for a 
sysprog opening.  

        After being interviewd by the sysprog manager and the VP of operations, 
I had a "final" interview with the CIO.

        The CIO noticed on my resume that I had some experience in the RACF 
arena (can you say GSD-331....); he asked if I would be interested in a RACF 
job for the same pay - he felt that his security organizaion needed more 
technical mainframe knowledge - someone who could intelligently interface with 
the sysprogs and rest of the data center.  

        The rest is history.  Our CIO is not your run-of the-mill executive - 
he started professional life as an operator on a mainframe. 

Randy

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Gilmore
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))

I do not know Randall Gross personally, and it was anyway no part of my intent 
to impugn the competence of any particular mainframe security specialist.  I 
indeed made it clear that I judge that the effectiveness of such groups varies 
widely.

I am nevertheless unrepentent about my view that most of these groups are no 
great shakes technically, bureaucratically orient[at]ed, and ineffective.

I am not sure just how 'staggering vacations in financial institutions' 
dissolves collusions.  It may well prevent them during the interval when either 
of, say, two colluders is vacationing; but there would still be ample 
opportunity for collusive misbehavior during the the nine months (assuming 
six-week non-overlapping vacations for each of two colluders) when both would 
be present.

Indeed, the historical rationale for these longish bank-officer
vacations|holidays has been that they provided opportunities for the
detection of fraud, not that they prevented it; and for this purpose 
simultaneous vacations for two colluding officers would be more effective.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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