And, I believe the actual company name with the SHARE code of CAD
was listed as "Northern Virginia Department of Highways", which I
also think was the sign on the GW Parkway to the CIA.

Barry Merrill


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cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes:
> From what I recall from over 35 years ago was that her friends thought 
> that the government snooping was a normal state of affairs.  Given the 
> records retention requirements  in the United States (and maybe other 
> countries), most organizations have to keep a huge amount of 
> documentation including all e-mails so that the government can later 
> troll through them to prove wrongdoing.  For organizations the 
> exposure is not snooping by the government of jurisdiction which can 
> get the data anyway but by foreign governments doing it for other 
> reasons.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#23 Is there any MF shop using AWS 
service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#25 Is there any MF shop using AWS 
service?

when the (virtual machine) cp67 development group split off from the science 
center and moved to the 3rd flr taking over the ibm boston program center ... 
they only had a part of the 3rd flr ... the rest of the 3rd flr was listed in 
the bldg registry as a law firm.  However the telco closet for the 3rd flr was 
on the ibm side ... and it clearly listed the other occupant as a certain 
3-letter agency. this agency was also member of share ... installation code 
"CAD" (supposedly for cloak-and-dagger).

in aug76, tymshare started offerring its cms-based online computer conferencing 
to share for free ... archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

"CAD" shows up periodcially in the postings. other reference ...  gone
404 but lives on at the wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

vm370 profs email system was in extensive use by the gov ... deleting email 
didn't remove it from the backup tapes.  the archived email played a role in 
investigation into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

note in the above ... possibly one of the reasons that the VP was out of the 
loop ... was he was administration point-person for deregulating the financial 
industry ... where some of his relatives played prominant roles ... one such 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan

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