In the late 70's, I was programming for 'Project Match', where large corporations voluntarily gave their employment data to the various state governments (via the FBI), and we matched them against welfare enrollment of some kind. Snooping's been going on for a while, don't you think?
David -----Original Message----- From: Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> To: IBM-MAIN <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 12:52 pm Subject: Semi-OT: Government snooping was Re: Is there any MF shop using AWS service? On 6 Apr 2014 07:15:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >In <3c50k9hv2dscdvhsn3b7kvi84jaibbp...@4ax.com>, on 04/05/2014 > at 11:41 AM, Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> said: > >>I remember my sister saying her European friends couldn't >>understand what the big deal about Watergate was. > >The same in Israel. > >>The assumed that the snooping involved was common >>practice given their experience with their own governments. > >Perhaps, but I suspect that it was really a question of whose ox was >gored. Certainly, people in Israel got very upset over what to me >looked like minor scandals; the were more egregious than Watergate >because they were local. > >Were the French as blasé over scandals in France as they were over >Watergate? > >From what I recall from over 35 years ago was that her friends thought that the government snooping was a normal state of affairs. Given the records retention requirements in the United States (and maybe other countries), most organizations have to keep a huge amount of documentation including all e-mails so that the government can later troll through them to prove wrongdoing. For organizations the exposure is not snooping by the government of jurisdiction which can get the data anyway but by foreign governments doing it for other reasons. Clark Morris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN