If you substitute 'free'  with 'included with the OS' you have software and 
tools that you can depend on to be available at any site you find yourself 
working at.  Debug tool,  HLASM toolkit, and all other ISV's may or may not be 
available.

Dana

>
>From: "David Crayford" <dcrayf...@gmail.com> 
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
>Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:42:02 AM 
>Subject: Re: "Feebie" software 
>
>On 4/07/2014 11:37 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: 
>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:18:12 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: 
>> 
>>> ... and the notion that IBM software is 
>>> somehow 'free' and that of ISVs is not is among the sillier ones that 
>>> have currency here. 
>> Hmmm - this must be an invitation to me to respond. 
>> Small customers (at least) see software included in the base as "free" - and 
>> ISVs like Dave are paddling a barbed-wire canoe upstream to get a sale. 
>> Simple as that. 
>> Believe me, I've been in to bat trying to get ISV software in the door, and 
>> in a lot of (most) cases it ain't gunna happen. 
>
>Even if it was free with optional support? 
>
>> Shane ... 
>> 

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