SPF needed terminals. I was at IBM in 1978 and SPF didn't seem all that old. Terminals were in short supply so punch using TYPRUN=COPY was the go...
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:17 AM, J R <jayare...@hotmail.com> wrote: > It was at an IBM internal site. It may have been before SPF's official > release. > > === > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:10:59 -0400 > > From: eamacn...@yahoo.ca > > Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Date according to WIKI. > > > > - > > -teD > > - > > Original Message > > From: J R > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 14:09 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS > > > > In my case, I was using SPF under MVT. > > > > I thought it was earlier than '74, but I could be misremembering. > > > > === > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:18:41 -0400 > > > From: eamacn...@yahoo.ca > > > Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > > ISPF (then called SPF) was introduced with MVS in 1974. > > > FSE to my knowledge was introduced latrr. > > > > > > - > > > -teD > > > - > > > Original Message > > > From: Hobart Spitz > > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 07:44 > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS > > > > > > For those who may be confused, this may make things worse :-) : > > > > > > - TSO EDIT is an ancient (circa 1970) line mode editor, and which > (being > > > generous) has very little use today. Try typing HELP EDIT at READY or > in > > > ISPF option 6. > > > - ISPF EDIT is a full-screen editor with a BOUNDS command. It was > > > inspired by FSE (Full Screen Edit) in the early 1980s. ISPF EDIT is the > > > editor that is used almost exclusively under z/OS. > > > > > > All of the above discussion applied to ISPF EDIT despite referring to > TSO > > > EDIT. ISPF runs under TSO/E. TSO EDIT does not require ISPF. ISPF EDIT > > > requires both TSO/E and ISPF. > > > > > > While everyone seems to have understood what was intended, it might > pay to > > > be a bit more accurate, as there are various native TSO commands that > > > provide (all but unknown and unused) line-mode analogs to a few ISPF > > > facilities with similar names, e.g. COPY, ASM, LINK, LISTCAT, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Ted MacNEIL <eamacn...@yahoo.ca> > wrote: > > > > > > > Native TSO EDIT does not have a bounds command. > > > > > > > > - > > > > -teD > > > > - > > > > Original Message > > > > From: Lizette Koehler > > > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 13:04 > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > > Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS > > > > > > > > It was not clear if you are using NATIVE TSO EDIT or if you are > using ISPF > > > > There are two lists you may wish to join if you have not done so > already > > > > > > > > TSO/REXX URL to join: > > > > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?TSO-REXX > > > > ISPF URL to join: > > > > https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ispf-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Using ISPF you can restrict a change command by combining LABELS and > > > > COLUMNS > > > > > > > > So if your data is on lines 50 to 100 - type a .a (dot a) on line > 50, then > > > > a .b (dot b) on line 100. > > > > > > > > Then the change command would look like > > > > > > > > C "string" "newstring" .a .b 35 50 all > > > > > > > > This will only change the lines .a to .b and only columns 35 to 50 > and the > > > > ALL says do all lines > > > > > > > > > > > > Use PF1 for HELP in ISPF > > > > > > > > Review CHANGE and LABELs and COLUMNs > > > > > > > > You can exclude lines you do not want changes to occur on and then > your > > > > change command could look like > > > > > > > > C "string" "newstring" .a .b 35 50 all NX > > > > NX says only lines showing - not excluded > > > > > > > > > > > > What would might work better is to use ISPF in Batch. You could > create a > > > > REXX with an ISPF EDIT Macro to EDIT your dataset. > > > > > > > > Lizette > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto: > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > > > > Behalf Of esmie moo > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:50 AM > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > Subject: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Gentle Readers > > > > > > > > > > I am trying the bounds command because I want to make a universal > change > > > > > between columns 35 to 50. > > > > > > > > > > I tried the HELP BNDS doc however it is not very clear. Here is > what it > > > > says: > > > > > > > > > > The bounds may then be changed by overtyping with < to define the > left > > > > > bound and > to define the right bound. > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure where I would overtype the < & the > > > > > > > > > > > I tried >35 but it shifted the datat to col 35 which is not what I > want. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to set the bounds between col 35 & 50 so that I can > enact my > > > > CHANGE > > > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > Is this possible? > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send > > > > email > > > > to > > > > > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OREXXMan > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. 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