Big no-no -- IBM Sued Neon Software and won over "possible" reverse engineering into the zIIP"s
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Blaicher, Christopher Y. Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Create zIIP workload Radoslaw, Having coded in that area and environment, there is no way to get there by accident. You need macros that you only get access to after you have a signed ISV agreement in place, or you would have to do a lot of reverse engineering, which is a big no-no. So there is no way for a user to code "zip black magic" code and suddenly have their code running on a z/IIP engine. Neon Software did it, but that was nefarious and deliberate and got them in a whole lot of trouble. Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Software Development Syncsort Incorporated 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 P: 201-930-8234 | M: 512-627-3803 E: cblaic...@syncsort.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Create zIIP workload Chris, It is very unlikely I would start coding in assembler, but it is possible. It is also POSSIBLE, very unlikely, but possible to use "zIIP black magic" in the code. Note, there are ways to obtain restricted knowledge withoout signing agreement with IBM. This is non-technical (at least non-IT) issue. Remember the contract is between companies, not human persons. My point is by coding in assembelr (legal thing) one can code which is illegal from IBM's point of view, despite of one is not aware of the restrictions. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2015-10-28 o 17:57, Blaicher, Christopher Y. pisze: > Given the hoops that one has to go through to run code on a z/IIP, I doubt > you can 'casually' get code to run on one. > > Also, because any z/IIP processing is SRB mode, there are all those > restrictions in addition. > > Chris Blaicher > Technical Architect > Software Development > Syncsort Incorporated > 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 > P: 201-930-8234 | M: 512-627-3803 > E: cblaic...@syncsort.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:08 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Create zIIP workload > > W dniu 2015-10-28 o 14:00, Jon Butler pisze: >> To get a legal copy you must have signed a user agreement (since several >> years ago) which precludes the use of specialty engines except as allowed by >> IBM. > What are the terms and conditions for zIIP usage in the user agreement? > As far as I remeber, there is nothing about my coding. > > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. 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