Right. And from point of view - as a nosy perisher :-) - I want to be using the names customers have for their machines when talking to them.
Today I have to ask and use a lookup table to match to Plant/Serial. General rant: "Machines should be self-documenting". Reality: "Largely they are". Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/01/2016 07:33 Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> I think, grouping doesn't help me. Why I'm considering CPC name change: there are two machines managed by the HMC, the serial numbers and it's names are the same with one character exception. This is error prone. More: LPARs view shows all the LPARs from both machines. LPAR names are different for each machines, but also there is only one character of difference. So, imagine "P0012345:LPN00T vs P0012435:LPM00T". Both describe tech LPAR, but on different machines. Easy to mismatch when drag'n'dropping some icon. So, I would like to have "FRANKIE:LPN00T vs MARY:LPM00T". Not to mention It's easier to say "FRANKIE" than "P0012435" by the phone. I'm going to do some tests now. Thank you all, who responded. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2016-01-07 o 23:44, Skip Robinson pisze: > I for one had a different interpretation of 'rename'. You just want an icon > on the HMC to have your own 'nickname'? True CEC name still P+serial#? What > I would do/have done in the past is this. Very simple and requires no > refresh. And no ill consequences if it's not right the first time. > > 1. Go into the 'grouping' function. > 2. Create a new group for the CEC. > 3. Assign one only one item to this group: your CEC with its natural born > name. > 4. Name the group with your desired nickname. It's not limited to 8 > characters. You can force a name to multiple lines with a special delimiter > that used to be documented in the Help file. I think it's vertical bar '|'. > 5. From now on your nickname will appear in the work space. When you click > on it, you will see the true name, but for practical purposes you will see > the nickname. > > I apologize if you want something different. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > jo.skip.robin...@att.net > jo.skip.robin...@gmail.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL >> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:47 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: Change CPC name in HMC >> >> We 'had' to do this, once. >> IBM originally recommended that LPAR names be independent of the 'name' >> of the image name running within it. >> >> Then, with GDPS, they recommended the reverse. The implementation went >> without a hitch. >> All our reporting/billing? Not so well. >> >> - >> -teD >> - >> Original Message >> From: Skip Robinson >> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:59 >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC >> >> First off, you can name a CPC anything you want within the syntax rules. >> Ideally you should pick a good name at initial install, but it can be > changed >> later. That being said, after we installed z12s in a new data center in > 2013, we >> intended to rename the z196 remaining in the old data center. We never got >> that done because we had never actually renamed a box before and were >> wary of what it would take to accomplish without disruption. Nothing > crucial >> depended on a rename, so we shined it on. The name is embodied in two >> places: >> >> -- The IODF names all processors. >> -- The HMC/SE names each processor in several places from POR (Reset) >> profile onward. >> >> IODF and HMC must agree. For a new box, this is not so hard. The trick is >> make a change without hosing up the environment. Also consider other >> implications: >> >> -- BCPii must also be updated. I consider that part of the HMC/SE tasks >> above, but don't overlook it. >> -- POR will be required. >> -- SMF records contain the CPC name. Any post processing must take a >> change into account. >> -- It's not uncommon for various automation processes to refer to CPC by >> name. Again, allow for this. >> -- Many folks in the IT community may be attached to the old name in >> various ways. Any change must 'socialized' thoroughly. >> >> I suggest you pick a name that you won't regret later. Consider the > effects of >> future model upgrades, workload repurposing, and physical relocation. >> However, if an upgrade involves a transition period where both old and new >> boxes must coexist, you need two separate names at least for a while. I > can >> see the appeal of serial number to avoid these conundrums, buy as you note >> the number is meaningless to all but a handful of infrastructure geeks. >> >> . >> . >> . >> J.O.Skip Robinson >> Southern California Edison Company >> Electric Dragon Team Paddler >> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager >> 323-715-0595 Mobile >> jo.skip.robin...@att.net >> jo.skip.robin...@gmail.com >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- >> m...@listserv.ua.edu] >>> On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht >>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 04:56 AM >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: Change CPC name in HMC >>> >>> Tony Thigpen wrote: >>> >>>> I have done such a change on two z10s with good results. The third time >> did >>> not go so well. For some reason, the secondary cpc did not change. >> Everything >>> looked ok until we did a POR, then it would not come up. We had to > restore >> the >>> CPC. >>> >>> Ouch. Where is that behaviour documented? >>> >>> Do you get a warning during the renaming that an upcoming POR may fail? >>> >>>> I don't know what went wrong, but after that, we no longer change the >>> names. >>> >>> Now you got a new scar and a T-shirt as a bonus ... :) >>> >>> I would also not repeat that stunt after one failure. >>> >>> Groete / Greetings >>> Elardus Engelbrecht > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. 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