The first rule of FAMS is you don't talk about FAMS.  :-)

I don't think that denying its existence is part of the contract, but I
can't say anything else about it.

sas

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin <
0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 23:05:44 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:
>
> >FAMS is a secret interface.  IBM may or may not provide the
> >documentation upon receipt of a signed NDA, and presumably, a "nominal"
> fee.
> >
> I'm aghast!  You mean IBM has (finally) started keeping timestamps on
> (some) files but to see them a customer must sign an NDS and pay for
> the privilege (or use NFS)?  What century does IBM think this is, anyway!?
>
> Are you allowed even to tell me it's secret?  I suppose that explains the
> conspicuous silence here of IBM employees.  I wonder whether the
> meager information will be removed from future editions of the NFS
> description.  And from the APARs.
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:39:00 -0400, Ken Smith wrote:
>
> >You probably knew this but if you can run under ISPF, batch or
> interactive,
> >use LMMSTATS.
> >
> I believe not.  As an experiment, I created a couple PDS members with
> IEBGENER, no ISPF involved.  NFS shows timestamps consistent with
> those in the job log and differing by 0.1995 seconds which I assume is
> job step overhead.  ISPF member list shows no stats whatever for those
> members.  Would LMMSTATS in a program show me any different?
> If you believe so, I'll try an experiment, but I'm skeptical.
>
> -- gil
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