TYPRUN=JCLHOLD gives the same result as SYSAFF to an inactive member: TIMETEST JOB03653 TSOSKIP 10 * LOCAL 27 X2 <-- inactive member with JCLHOLD TIMETEST JOB03829 TSOSKIP 5 * LOCAL 27 X0 <-- active member with no HOLD
Neither job goes through conversion, hence '*' in the class column. Neither shows substitution for symbolics: // SET D=&LYYMMDD // SET T=&LHHMMSS As I said earlier, although this is undoubtedly WAD, it is not necessarily WAW (working as wished). There is probably no universal solution. I might use time in a DSN to indicate the time of creation. OTOH I might use time to indicate when a job was submitted. The same time stamp could hardly be used for both functions. This is the problem I anticipated during free-for-all discussions at SHARE. It's not just that different folks want different behavior. The same person may want different behavior for different purposes. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Rutledge Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: System symbols in batch JCL I would expect that behavior for TYPRUN=HOLD; how about TYPRUN=JCLHOLD? Bob On 7/22/2016 5:03 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Ed knows I was just kidding. More grist for your sysprog notebook. > > -- If a job is submitted with TYPRUN=HOLD, system symbols are substituted > immediately during conversion. > -- If a job is submitted with SYSAFF=inactive-system, there is no > substitution because (I guess) no conversion. > > Case 2 is probably what you'd expect, but Case 1 is one of those canned worms > I spoke of earlier. Surely I would like a DSN date/time stamp to reflect > execution date/time, not submit date/time, but the latter is what I get. More > uproar at the convention. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:56 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: System symbols in batch JCL > > On 7/22/2016 1:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >> Thanks to all. I'll be quiet now. > > Haha! I likely story ... > > -- > Edward E Jaffe > Phoenix Software International, Inc > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segundo, CA 90245 > http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
