The most telling detail I've seen is that the Delta 'system', whatever that 
entails, encompasses 500 servers! Of those, 400 came up early-ish on, but 100 
others proved obstreperous. OK, folks here have cited--even boasted 
about--nearly transparent DR failover. Really? Can anyone on this list actually 
perform a complete DR with 500 servers to another location in less time than it 
would (presumably) take to get all 500 back up in their native location? We're 
not talking here about a well-configured mainframe. This is a massive number of 
weenie-ware gizmos that all have to talk to each other in perfect harmony. 
Somewhere else. 

If so, you are gods. I stand ready to be awed. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Delta Outage

Dutch television had the info that passengers were in trouble because their 
data was lost in the disaster. If true, this is of course totally unacceptable 
for such a company, whatever the disaster.

Kees.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Gerhard Adam
Sent: 09 August, 2016 18:06
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Delta Outage

Apparently there are 500 servers involved.  I have my own speculations as to 
why they didn't declare a disaster.

As a result, the outage was extended because it appears to be taking them in 
excess of 12 hours to reboot everything.



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Delta Outage

Then WHY did they not initiate their DR and move all systems to the HOT Site.  
I just finished putting in a System that has a RTO=RPO=0 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Gerhard Adam
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 10:17 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Delta Outage

>From what I understand, it isn't a simple power outage, but rather a fire in 
>the data center.

http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/08/data-center-disaster-disrupts-delta-
airlines/



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Delta Outage

I live in Texas and we have ERCOT, and Texas produces more wind energy than
3 countries.  And Texas has NO Interconnects To other grids.  

It its reprehensible that Delta does not have enough battery power and gen-sets 
to cover the screw-ups by Atlanta Power. AA is in  Irving and unless there is a 
major storm in that area does not lose 

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