On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Pommier, Rex <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com>
wrote:

> Charles,
>
> I hear where you're coming from, but this sword cuts both ways.  If I have
> an install on the mainframe go south, I have the diagnostic tools to figure
> out what went wrong and correct the problem.  Comparing that to my Windows
> install on my home PC, it says I have 75 critical updates that I need to
> install, but when I click the next-next-go it just sits there claiming it
> is downloading the updates but nothing happens.  I get no errors, no
> nothing indicating what's wrong.  I try to run the "updater fix it tool"
> and the extent of errors I get back consists of "something went wrong".  I
> shudder to think what mess we'll be in if the mainframe installation ever
> gets to that level.
>
> Rex
>
>
​IMO, the way my Linux distro (Redhat Fedora) does things is much nicer
that Windows. I have a CLI tool, "dnf", which can be used to upgrade one
package (the Linux kernel is a package), a list of packages, o​r all
packages. Assuming the vendor does the work correctly (and Redhat has so
far), dnf will resolve inter-package dependencies by either adding more
packages to the list or by telling me that a listed package cannot be
upgraded to a missing co-requisite. It will then give me a list of what it
intends to download & upgrade, which shows the version/patch level. I then
approve that list. It then downloads _all_ the packages to a staging area
on disk. It then starts upgrading packages. It is really quite easy. Debian
based distributions have something similar.


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Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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