BC12 is 50 to 4958 MIPs, 6 to 614 MSUs
z10BC is 25 to 2805 MIPs, 3 to 342 MSUs
z10EC is 214 to 31826 MIPs, 27 to 3739 MSUs

Steve Beaver wrote:
if you're looking at 35 MSU range you're looking at is the BC 12

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Steve Beaver


On Dec 9, 2016, at 15:33, Ward, Mike S <mw...@ssfcu.org> wrote:

35 MIP or 35 MSU?

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If you look at equipment resellers, you can get a 35 MIP z10 for next to 
nothing.  You still need storage and communications and software like CICS and 
power


Steve Beaver


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Timothy -
I did read all the links on your page - it’s what prompted the rant. And, 
likewise, if you read my post in its entirety, you know that 15 days of a 
“test-drive of development-based tools on Z” does positively and unquivocally 
zero to address the items I enumerated. No way that testdrive (and its anemic 
15 day limit) would provide an intelligent person an even remotely fighting 
chance of learning anything useful about the platform with which to make a 
decision on schooling, trade or vocation. Is there value in the link you 
provided? Sure. Does it address anything I said. Nope.

Respectfully,

Chad



On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:40 AM, Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> wrote:

Bigendian Smalls wrote:

TL;DR - there needs to be a free version of z/os & it’s siblings sooner

than

later, to not do this is to potentially starve the platoform out of

existence

as we know it.

Didn't anybody read the page that I linked to? There is, already. For up to
15 days.

Charles Mills wrote:

What??? THIS is IBM's answer???

As a reminder, I do not speak for IBM. If you'd like *IBM's* answer, ask IBM through an official channel. *My* answer, writing only for himself, is to state a plain fact: free z/OS access is available, today, from IBM, for up to 15 days. I believe in facts. Let's at least start with them. IBM probably will if you're going to make an argument with IBM.

Scott Chapman wrote:

I don't see anything there that says one can do real


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